From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12908: 24.3.50; file `emacs_backtrace.txt'? Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 15:01:40 -0800 Message-ID: <753BC08DCC9A446BB22336EDB8AF31CF@us.oracle.com> References: <4B9EFDFEE27E43DBB6331605DD7C2842@us.oracle.com><50A7DB2C.7050501@cs.ucla.edu> <8339082gig.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353193338 3134 80.91.229.3 (17 Nov 2012 23:02:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 23:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12908@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" , "'Paul Eggert'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 18 00:02:28 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TZrP9-0001lD-Ib for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 00:02:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44750 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TZrOz-0002PJ-1o for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sat, 17 Nov 2012 23:01:50 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt111.oracle.com (abhmt111.oracle.com [141.146.116.63]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qAHN1mC4029825; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 17:01:49 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 15:01:48 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <8339082gig.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: Ac3E9y3ragTSqYNiRSOP9JYo6I8CxgAHy8HA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:67087 Archived-At: (I see that everyone is using the original bug thread, even though I created a new one at Eli's request, and the original one was supposedly closed (doc fixed).) > (Note that unlike on Unix, Emacs on Windows doesn't change its current > directory from where it was started, so the backtrace will normally > end up in the same directory for all invocations of Emacs on that > machine by that user.) > > If we want the information in .emacs.d, we need to actively write it > there on Unix. On Windows, I believe that some (many? most?) users start Emacs from a shortcut, and that some (many? most?) of those start it in a directory that has meaning for them, e.g., a directory of user files. (I, for example, start it in a directory of my Emacs Lisp files, and I open it with Dired there.) Is the situation similar on Unix? Do users often start Emacs in a user directory? It's one thing to stick the backtrace file in the startup directory if that is the default Emacs bin directory or some such Emacs-related folder. It's another thing to stick the file in a user directory because the user intentionally starts Emacs there. That has been my point from the beginning: I don't really care where you stick it, as long as it is in some Emacs/system internal program folder and not a user folder. There is a reason why programs on Windows are often installed (and started) in an application-specific folder under `Program Files', and not in any old user folder.