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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Stefan Monnier'" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	"'martin rudalics'" <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: 6204@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#6204: vc-dir always splits the frame
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 11:33:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7496FB4D7A8745038D45428F0C3FB753@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwveigzx6r8.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

> Rather than let-binding some Lisp-manipulated "config" var, I was
> thinking of passing special parameters to display-buffer (I'd rather
> avoid dynamic scoping whenever possible).

I'm not following this thread[*], and I agree that using explicit parameters is
usually better than using dynamic scoping. However, I do have a parenthetic
comment. ;-)

The downside to adding such parameters in a case where you modify existing
functions (esp. if used heavily in existing code) is that it can make it harder
for 3rd-party code to take advantage of the new feature and still work with
older versions that do not have the new parameters.

E.g. 

(let ((new-var ...))
 ... (foo) ... (foo) ... (foo) ...)

versus

...
(if xxx (foo) (foo new-param))
...
(if xxx (foo) (foo new-param))
...
(if xxx (foo) (foo new-param))
...

In the former case, all that's needed is to add a `let' binding.  And if there
is already a `let', then _nothing_ changes in the code except adding one more
binding.  It is nearly always the case that the variables to be added are be
specific to the function (`foo'), without conflict.

IOW, dynamic scoping is foot-loose and fancy-free, error prone, and can even
sometimes be dangerous.  But it does have its advantages.


---
* Why oh why do you insist on carrying on discussions of such general import as
changing the signature of `display-buffer' in a bug thread instead of in
emacs-devel?  It happens over and over again now.  Fundamental design-change
discussion takes place buried in a bug thread with a Subject line that is
unrelated.  Not good.  At the very least, once you've hashed out the choices for
the bug fix, send a proposal for any design changes to emacs-devel for general
discussion.






  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-05-25 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-17  5:06 bug#6204: vc-dir always splits the frame Glenn Morris
2010-05-17  7:27 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-05-19  3:01   ` Glenn Morris
2010-05-19 21:31     ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-20  9:45       ` martin rudalics
2010-05-20 17:14         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-20 17:37           ` martin rudalics
2010-05-21 20:15             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-22  8:50               ` martin rudalics
2010-05-22 23:51                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-23  0:55                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-23  0:59                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-23 12:15                       ` martin rudalics
2010-05-23 13:32                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-23 19:04                           ` martin rudalics
2010-05-24 14:07                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-25 15:36                               ` martin rudalics
2010-05-25 17:00                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-25 17:32                                   ` martin rudalics
2010-05-25 18:01                                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-26  8:29                                       ` martin rudalics
2010-05-26 13:54                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-26 14:49                                           ` martin rudalics
2010-05-27  3:58                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-25 18:13                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-26  8:30                                       ` martin rudalics
2010-05-26 13:56                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-26 14:51                                           ` martin rudalics
2010-05-27  4:04                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-27  9:09                                               ` martin rudalics
2010-05-27 16:13                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-27 17:26                                                   ` martin rudalics
2010-05-27 18:40                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-28  9:19                                                       ` martin rudalics
2010-05-28 15:34                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-25 18:33                                   ` Drew Adams [this message]
2010-05-26  8:30                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-05-26 14:26                                       ` Drew Adams
2010-05-23 12:15                     ` martin rudalics
2010-05-23 12:14                   ` martin rudalics
2010-05-23  0:52                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-23 12:14                   ` martin rudalics
2010-05-23 13:31                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-21 20:51             ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-22  8:49               ` martin rudalics
2010-05-22 23:54                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-22 23:50         ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-23 12:13           ` martin rudalics
2010-05-20 18:33       ` Glenn Morris
2010-05-21  0:16         ` Juri Linkov

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