From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24891: 25.1: Falsehood on page "Major Modes" of Emacs manual. Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 15:19:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <71941c5f-0c6c-4edd-99ab-134cf6fdce96@default> References: <20161106221832.GB5605@acm.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1478474495 12451 195.159.176.226 (6 Nov 2016 23:21:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 23:21:35 +0000 (UTC) To: Alan Mackenzie , 24891@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 07 00:21:31 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3WkR-0000KX-Dw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 00:21:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49064 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3WkU-0005ey-Do for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 18:21:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57856) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3WkM-0005ds-Qc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 18:21:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3WkI-0008DG-SC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 18:21:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:60051) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3WkI-0008Cq-Oc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 18:21:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3WkI-00014Z-JS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 18:21:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2016 23:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24891 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 24891-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24891.14784744154028 (code B ref 24891); Sun, 06 Nov 2016 23:21:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24891) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2016 23:20:15 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47213 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3WjX-00012u-29 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 18:20:15 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:29340) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3WjW-00012h-3q for 24891@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 18:20:14 -0500 Original-Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id uA6NK07G030298 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 6 Nov 2016 23:20:02 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id uA6NK0kE030582 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 6 Nov 2016 23:20:00 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0002.oracle.com (abhmp0002.oracle.com [141.146.116.8]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id uA6NJxTv011866; Sun, 6 Nov 2016 23:20:00 GMT In-Reply-To: <20161106221832.GB5605@acm.fritz.box> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6753.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:125397 Archived-At: > In the Emacs manual, page "Major Modes" appears the following: > > all programming language modes run `prog-mode-hook', prior to > running their own mode hooks. > > I suggest amending this sentence to something like: >=20 > many programming language modes (including all these distributed > with Emacs) run `prog-mode-hook', prior to runnuing their own > mode hooks. +1. But: these -> those, runnuing -> running, and we can drop the comma before "prior". And I'm not sure why we need to or should say "(including...)". Why? I'd suggest just this: many programming language modes run `prog-mode-hook' before running their own mode hooks Or even "some" instead of "many". What does it matter how many do this?