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nmh 1.8-RC2; Emacs 30.0.92 Content-ID: <70401.1734743297.1@alto.camomileplus.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.144.192.42; envelope-from=kupfer@rawbw.com; helo=shell1.rawbw.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:297481 Archived-At: I would like to use TRAMP to access the files on my Android phone. It's not working. While trying to troubleshoot, I am finding the documentation less than clear in a couple places, so I'm reporting those shortcomings here. 1. The TRAMP "GVFS-based external methods" page says Emacs must have the message bus system, D-Bus integration active, see D-Bus(dbus). I do not understand what it means for D-Bus integration to be "active". Is it a runtime thing, or is it just talking about whether the code is compiled in? Is there a command to run, a variable to look at, or an sexp to evaluate that would tell me whether D-Bus integration is "active"? I looked in the D-Bus Info documentation and wasn't able to find any clues there. Nor did a web search help. 2. The "D-Bus integration in Emacs" Info file just covers the API. But it assumes that you have D-Bus support compiled in. I think there should be some mention that D-Bus support is a compile-time option. I also would like to see instructions for how to tell if the necessary code was, in fact, compiled in. (The *Gnus* documentation says it's (featurep 'dbusbind). That's not the place users will look.) 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