From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24995: 25.1; Emacs manual: no doc on "bracketed paste mode" Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 08:42:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f46675c-658e-4036-b03e-252a52170bc6@default> References: <<81ea90bf-11b8-4316-94b4-2815222b95d9@default>> <<83vave5fbr.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1479919398 1775 195.159.176.226 (23 Nov 2016 16:43:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 16:43:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 24995@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams , Philipp Stephani Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 23 17:43:13 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c9adc-0007Vj-Bp for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2016 17:43:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34876 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c9adc-0007nC-TV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2016 11:43:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55258) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c9adV-0007mZ-Oo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2016 11:43:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c9adS-0007Sp-G6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2016 11:43:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:52323) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c9adS-0007S1-Bn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2016 11:43:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c9adS-0006v9-0U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2016 11:43:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 16:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24995 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 24995-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24995.147991938126596 (code B ref 24995); Wed, 23 Nov 2016 16:43:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24995) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Nov 2016 16:43:01 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39489 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c9adQ-0006uu-Qi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2016 11:43:01 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:42908) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c9adP-0006ug-9X for 24995@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2016 11:42:59 -0500 Original-Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id uANGgqbU017493 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 23 Nov 2016 16:42:52 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.14.4) with ESMTP id uANGgpId003996 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 23 Nov 2016 16:42:52 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id uANGgpax009984; Wed, 23 Nov 2016 16:42:51 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83vave5fbr.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6753.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:126020 Archived-At: > > What is touted as a "nifty new feature" and an "advanced > > capability" in the Antinews is not mentioned anywhere else. >=20 > That's inaccurate: it is mentioned in NEWS. (How do you think > Antinews is being prepared?) Of course, you want to argue... Clearly, based on the Subject line, I meant: What is touted ... in the `Antinews' NODE OF THE EMACS MANUAL as ... is not mentioned anywhere else IN THE EMACS MANUAL. (And I specifically stated that it is mentioned in the NEWS. This bug report is about the Emacs manual.) > > If it's so nifty and advanced, say something about it, somewhere. > > What is it? What can I do with it? >=20 > The bracketed paste mode is not an Emacs feature, it's a feature of > the terminal. Emacs just uses it when it thinks it's available. If > you want to learn about this, you should look in the terminal- > related documentation, or on the net. I don't think Emacs should=20 > describe features of terminals it runs on. >=20 > > In particular, how do you turn it off? > > http://emacs.stackexchange.com/q/28851/105 > > > > `C-h f brack TAB' didn't help. > > `C-h v brack TAB' didn't help. > > > > As the OP for that question said, googling didn't help. >=20 > That's fine, because there's no way to turn it off, so there's > nothing to document. >=20 > IOW, I don't think there's any documentation problem here. Too bad. > I do think it would be nice to let users disable use of this > feature, even if the terminal supports it. Since we do that > with other xterm extensions (see xterm-extra-capabilities), > we should probably offer the same level of control for this=20 > capability, either as part of getSelection, or as a separate > feature. Clearly. If Emacs can suddenly start supporting it then Emacs can provide a way to turn it off (it was, in effect, off before). > Philipp, would you like to add this on the emacs-25 branch? Yes, thank you.