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[66.202.84.2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s12sm8825148qkl.2.2015.09.15.15.03.02 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Sep 2015 15:03:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8337yf92jc.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 15 Sep 2015 17:32:07 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.93 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:106612 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Is there something new in what you discovered, given the fact that a > tooltip is just a special kind of frame, and so everything that you > reported which causes slow creation of a new frame pertains also to > tooltips? Some of it, yes. Some of this is similar to stuff that I dug up looking into #11822, but which wasn't the "unneeded work on other frames" issue where I thought we wanted to keep the focus for #11822, hence the separate filing. But in this case, most of the X network exchanges appear to be just about the new frame, so the fix for #11822 Stefan proposed doesn't look like it should affect this. While the tooltip is a kind of frame, its creation is handled differently from a regular X frame, which may be why it seems to side-step the additional other-frame work seen in #11822. The heavy use of XSync calls are something I hadn't looked into before, also. Ken