From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22448: 24.5; `M-x customize' link "See als Manual" Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 17:10:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6ef27028-02ce-479b-8111-fa1baeb5f723@default> References: <0aa12033-8a98-48f3-b7af-096e5a074520@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1453597885 5275 80.91.229.3 (24 Jan 2016 01:11:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 01:11:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 22448@debbugs.gnu.org To: Xue Fuqiao Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 24 02:11:12 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aN9Cx-0001Mq-Nr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Jan 2016 02:11:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58930 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aN9Cw-0000Nk-KM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Jan 2016 20:11:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52637) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aN9Cs-0000NT-Q4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jan 2016 20:11:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aN9Co-0004oU-Ox for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jan 2016 20:11:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:44445) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aN9Co-0004oQ-Ld for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jan 2016 20:11:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aN9Co-0006KB-FC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jan 2016 20:11:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 01:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22448 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 22448-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22448.145359783624270 (code B ref 22448); Sun, 24 Jan 2016 01:11:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22448) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2016 01:10:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60898 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aN9CO-0006JN-Cu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jan 2016 20:10:36 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:24814) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aN9CM-0006J8-O6 for 22448@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jan 2016 20:10:35 -0500 Original-Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u0O1ARvL032231 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 24 Jan 2016 01:10:28 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u0O1AR4g019368 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 24 Jan 2016 01:10:27 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u0O1AQKM021607; Sun, 24 Jan 2016 01:10:26 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:111906 Archived-At: > > The link near the top of the buffer says See also Manual. > > Clicking that link should take you to the part of the Emacs > > manual that presents Customize. Instead, it takes you to > > the top of the manual. That's not helpful at all. >=20 > There are three links to the manual, actually. Please see the attached > screenshot. The "See also" link is for the top-level `Emacs' group. The other two links are fine. The link I reported is wrong. Even if it is intended to be relevant to group `Emacs', it is wrong. Group `Emacs' is a Customize group. The link does not take you anywhere that provides information about Customize groups in general or any Customize group in particular, let alone the `Emacs' group. In addition, there already is an "Emacs manual" link to the top of the manual. There is no need for another. The problematic link should just be removed, if there is no doc specific for group `Emacs' to which it could be linked. It does not help, but confuses, as it is now.