From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18343: 24.4.50; REGRESSION: `help-echo' property is not added, so no tooltip or echo Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 08:52:58 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Message-ID: <6e92c530-40e9-462d-b0bf-46911ac4a103@default> References: <73dcc1a9-eab9-4f13-be3a-8e8eea6a2e8b@default>> <83vbpcin5h.fsf@gnu.org>> <2c33a850-0b4a-4b87-b2e4-b662df4ed01e@default> <8760uzrz7j.fsf@gnus.org> <87a8k93fz7.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462121683 10879 80.91.229.3 (1 May 2016 16:54:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 16:54:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 18343@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 01 18:54:30 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1awudZ-0001XQ-PC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 May 2016 18:54:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33678 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awudW-0007e2-4B for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 May 2016 12:54:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59794) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awudN-0007SW-GC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2016 12:54:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awudB-00062n-TW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2016 12:54:12 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:48541) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awudB-00061W-PW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2016 12:54:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awud8-0002n6-DT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2016 12:54:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 01 May 2016 16:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18343 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 18343-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18343.146212159010666 (code B ref 18343); Sun, 01 May 2016 16:54:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18343) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 May 2016 16:53:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60878 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awucI-0002ly-0E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2016 12:53:10 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:36159) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awucG-0002ll-MU for 18343@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2016 12:53:09 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u41Gr1hE020592 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 1 May 2016 16:53:02 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u41Gr1Qu001693 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 1 May 2016 16:53:01 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u41Gr0BZ004567; Sun, 1 May 2016 16:53:00 GMT In-Reply-To: <87a8k93fz7.fsf@web.de> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:117519 Archived-At: > > Why should `help-echo' be on `font-lock-extra-managed-props'? >=20 > I guess the reason is to allow font-lock to propertize parts of the > buffer with this property. This issue is a (presumably not trivially > avoidable) side effect. By "allow font-lock to propertize parts of the buffer with this property" do you mean allow it to propertize, with faces, parts of the buffer that happen to have property `help-echo'? Or do you mean allow it to add property `help-echo' parts of the buffer? If the latter, what is the use case for font-lock doing that? I'll assume you meant the former - In that case, why not trivially avoidable? Why not tell font-lock hands-off this property, which has nothing to do with highlighting? Until the recent change that caused this regression, property `help-echo' was not on the list `font-lock-extra-managed-props'. Is it clear to you why it needs to be on that list? It's not clear to me.