* bug#22625: 24.5; Please add index entry for `~ filename suffix' to manual for node `Backup Names'
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@ 2016-02-13 16:58 ` Drew Adams
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From: Drew Adams @ 2016-02-13 16:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 22625-done
> I added index entries, but I really doubt this will help
> discoverability: there are 12 index entries in the manual that
> include "~", and the new one I added is the 5th hit...
Thanks, Eli. I think it will help, nevertheless. Without this
it is really not easy to ask Emacs what those ~-suffixed files
are. A user sees them and can wonder what they are. This will
help.
But I agree with you that when there are multiple index entries
that match a prefix it is cumbersome to notice and get to one
that you might want. That's a general problem.
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* bug#22625: 24.5; Please add index entry for `~ filename suffix' to manual for node `Backup Names'
@ 2016-02-10 23:04 Drew Adams
2016-02-13 13:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-13 15:24 ` Kaushal Modi
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From: Drew Adams @ 2016-02-10 23:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 22625
Subject line says it all.
See http://emacs.stackexchange.com/q/20216/105.
It's a reasonable question. A user sees files with `~' at the end of
the name, and wonders what they are. How to find info about that in the
manual?
In GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
of 2015-04-11 on LEG570
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601
Configured using:
`configure --prefix=/c/usr --host=i686-pc-mingw32'
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* bug#22625: 24.5; Please add index entry for `~ filename suffix' to manual for node `Backup Names'
2016-02-10 23:04 Drew Adams
@ 2016-02-13 13:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-13 15:24 ` Kaushal Modi
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2016-02-13 13:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 22625-done
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 15:04:27 -0800 (PST)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
>
> See http://emacs.stackexchange.com/q/20216/105.
>
> It's a reasonable question. A user sees files with `~' at the end of
> the name, and wonders what they are. How to find info about that in the
> manual?
I added index entries, but I really doubt this will help
discoverability: there are 12 index entries in the manual that include
"~", and the new one I added is the 5th hit...
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* bug#22625: 24.5; Please add index entry for `~ filename suffix' to manual for node `Backup Names'
2016-02-10 23:04 Drew Adams
2016-02-13 13:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2016-02-13 15:24 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-02-13 15:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Kaushal Modi @ 2016-02-13 15:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 22625
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I am not sure I understood the request.
On emacs built from emacs-25 branch (could not verify the same on 24.5), by
doing,
C-h i g (emacs) Backup Names
I get a very good explanation of how the backup files are named.
=====
When Emacs makes a backup file, its name is normally constructed by
appending ‘~’ to the file name being edited; thus, the backup file for
‘eval.c’ would be ‘eval.c~’.
If access control stops Emacs from writing backup files under the
usual names, it writes the backup file as ‘~/.emacs.d/%backup%~’. Only
one such file can exist, so only the most recently made such backup is
available.
Emacs can also make "numbered backup files". Numbered backup file
names contain ‘.~’, the number, and another ‘~’ after the original file
name. Thus, the backup files of ‘eval.c’ would be called ‘eval.c.~1~’,
‘eval.c.~2~’, and so on, all the way through names like ‘eval.c.~259~’
and beyond.
[snip]
=====
Should this bug be closed?
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Kaushal Modi
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* bug#22625: 24.5; Please add index entry for `~ filename suffix' to manual for node `Backup Names'
2016-02-13 15:24 ` Kaushal Modi
@ 2016-02-13 15:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-13 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2016-02-13 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kaushal Modi; +Cc: 22625
> From: Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:24:56 -0500
>
> I am not sure I understood the request.
>
> On emacs built from emacs-25 branch (could not verify the same on 24.5), by doing,
>
> C-h i g (emacs) Backup Names
>
> I get a very good explanation of how the backup files are named.
Drew didn't say the text was insufficient, he asked for index
entries. IOW, how do you find quickly what a tilde at the end of a
file name means?
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* bug#22625: 24.5; Please add index entry for `~ filename suffix' to manual for node `Backup Names'
2016-02-13 15:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2016-02-13 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2016-02-13 15:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: kaushal.modi; +Cc: 22625
> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 17:37:36 +0200
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> Cc: 22625@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> Drew didn't say the text was insufficient, he asked for index
> entries. IOW, how do you find quickly what a tilde at the end of a
> file name means?
Oh, and I already closed the bug.
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