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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 54296@debbugs.gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, larsi@gnus.org
Subject: bug#54296: Add buffer-matching functionality
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2022 22:36:55 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6dd7e47d-4115-7e2c-4ee0-d4e00f684a90@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83pmjbrsiu.fsf@gnu.org>

On 14.06.2022 21:47, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>>> Do you agree with Philip that deprecating or removing major-mode would
>>> be a problem for users of project-kill-buffer-conditions etc.?
>>
>> Yes. I also mentioned that here:
>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2022-06/msg00650.html
> 
> So then everything is okay, AFAIU, because eventually Philip left that
> in the code.  Right?

No, he didn't.

He tried to migrate project-kill-buffer-conditions to the new format, 
with predicted unfortunate side-effects. And an unpredicted one (which 
is easier to fix, though).

See commit 1a3bad431d.

>>> I kinda gave up because Philip felt extremely uneasy with dropping
>>> major-mode, leaving us with just derived-mode, but I still think we
>>> shouldn't encourage Lisp programs to use major-mode.  So if you don't
>>> think it would be a problem, I'd be happier if we removed major-mode
>>> and used derived-mode instead.
>>
>> If I didn't think Philip's point had merit, I wouldn't have brought it
>> up now.
> 
> OK, but I didn't press my POV, so where's the problem, and why the
> emotions?

Your POV was the one that got implemented. buffer-match-p has 
'major-mode' but not 'derived-mode'. And 'major-mode' behaves like 
'derived-mode' behaved in project-kill-buffer-conditions.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-14 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-07 22:33 bug#54296: Add buffer-matching functionality Philip Kaludercic
2022-03-09 16:20 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-03-09 20:34   ` martin rudalics
2022-03-10 10:05   ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-03-10 11:53     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-10 12:13       ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-03-10 14:52         ` bug#54296: [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-03-10 16:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-11 16:21           ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-03-11 18:34             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-13 20:40               ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-03-14  3:21                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-14  8:21                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-03-14 13:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-14 13:38                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-06-13  0:30                         ` Dmitry Gutov
     [not found]                         ` <add2d2d0-9cdf-9048-1a62-f34e585c582e@yandex.ru>
2022-06-13 12:04                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-14 18:43                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-14 18:47                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-14 19:36                                 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2022-06-15  2:33                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-15 11:48                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-15 13:20                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-15 15:56                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-15 16:17                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-15 16:51                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-15 17:29                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-16  0:47                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-16  5:51                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-17  1:21                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-17  5:48                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-17 13:39                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-15 16:59                                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-06-17  1:22                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-04-14  8:25                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-04-15  6:56                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-15 10:57                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-06-13  0:30                   ` Dmitry Gutov
     [not found]                   ` <b4bf095c-7210-61ee-87af-3d8031caba89@yandex.ru>
2022-06-13 12:13                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-14 19:00                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-14 19:17                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-14 19:46                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-15  2:34                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-15 11:54                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-03-12 10:23       ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-12 11:07         ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-03-10 15:42     ` martin rudalics

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