* bug#18167: 24.4.50; Horizontal scroll bar
@ 2014-08-01 9:56 john ffitch
2014-08-01 10:10 ` martin rudalics
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: john ffitch @ 2014-08-01 9:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 18167
Is there a way to either get rid of them or at least hide them when
the whole data is within the widow width? I am finding it visually
dominant and takes screen space.
In GNU Emacs 24.4.50.17 (x86_64-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.10.4)
of 2014-07-31 on harvey.codemist.co.uk
Repository revision: 117615 eggert@cs.ucla.edu-20140731135512-r29rtku1tsqtwrcq
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<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> e m
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Mark saved where search started
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==John ffitch
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* bug#18167: 24.4.50; Horizontal scroll bar
2014-08-01 9:56 bug#18167: 24.4.50; Horizontal scroll bar john ffitch
@ 2014-08-01 10:10 ` martin rudalics
2014-08-01 14:07 ` Drew Adams
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: martin rudalics @ 2014-08-01 10:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: john ffitch, 18167
> Is there a way to either get rid of them or at least hide them when
> the whole data is within the widow width? I am finding it visually
> dominant and takes screen space.
Please use
(when (fboundp 'horizontal-scroll-bar-mode)
(horizontal-scroll-bar-mode -1))
in your .emacs.
martin
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* bug#18167: 24.4.50; Horizontal scroll bar
2014-08-01 10:10 ` martin rudalics
@ 2014-08-01 14:07 ` Drew Adams
2014-08-01 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2014-08-01 14:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: martin rudalics, john ffitch, 18167
> > Is there a way to either get rid of them or at least hide them when
> > the whole data is within the widow width? I am finding it visually
> > dominant and takes screen space.
>
> (when (fboundp 'horizontal-scroll-bar-mode)
> (horizontal-scroll-bar-mode -1))
Why not turn it off by default, and let users opt *in* for this
new feature if and when they want it?
I understand that a counter argument is that Emacs newbies will
expect a horizontal scroll bar. But on that score they will
also expect that it only be present when it is actually useful
(e.g. when the text is wider than the window).
(Disclosure: I have not yet seen the new scroll bar. I do not
have access to an MS Windows binary more recent than 6/28.)
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* bug#18167: 24.4.50; Horizontal scroll bar
2014-08-01 14:07 ` Drew Adams
@ 2014-08-01 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2014-08-01 15:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 18167, jpff
> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 07:07:54 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
>
> > > Is there a way to either get rid of them or at least hide them when
> > > the whole data is within the widow width? I am finding it visually
> > > dominant and takes screen space.
> >
> > (when (fboundp 'horizontal-scroll-bar-mode)
> > (horizontal-scroll-bar-mode -1))
>
> Why not turn it off by default, and let users opt *in* for this
> new feature if and when they want it?
He already said he will, soon.
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@ 2014-08-01 15:31 ` Drew Adams
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2014-08-01 15:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 18167, jpff
> > Why not turn it off by default, and let users opt *in* for this
> > new feature if and when they want it?
>
> He already said he will, soon.
Great. Thx.
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