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Fri, 24 Feb 2023 07:35:22 -0800 (PST) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <835ybrnllt.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:256618 Archived-At: On 24/02/2023 17:12, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 16:14:31 +0200 >> Cc: Gregory Heytings,61667@debbugs.gnu.org, >> Eli Zaretskii >> From: Dmitry Gutov >> >> The problem is in the noticeable delay between me pressing 'a' and >> seeing the contents of the window updated. >> >> When the frame title doesn't change, we simply can't track it as an >> additional symptom (that the buffer has been successfully visited, but >> the frame display remains the same). >> >> But whether the title changes or not, I can easily see the delay between >> me pressing 'a' and the contents of the window being updated. Or its >> absence. > So now you are saying that the changing title of the frame is_not_ > the cause of the problem? You are now saying that the delay_always_ > happens, and that the change in the frame's title just makes it easier > to spot that delay? I just said that unchanging title doesn't stop me from seeing the delay when there is, in fact, a delay. > So when you earlier wrote that a constant frame title makes the > problem disappear, you were mistaken, and the constant title just > makes the problem harder to spot? And the delay exists no matter > whether the frame's title changes or not? No, I stand by the earlier assessment. Sorry if some of the phrasing was confusing.