From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#32599: 25.2; Feature request: input PUA characters by name Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 11:06:28 +0200 Message-ID: <6F226CA9-23AB-4D17-8674-6CD8F9907437@gnu.org> References: <86sh30fg4q.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> <868t4m3nrs.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> <8736uu3eb3.fsf@gmail.com> <86r2iey9vk.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> <867ead8wmd.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> <83lfyt2s25.fsf@gnu.org> <86pno56y82.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> <83a7f92lzr.fsf@gnu.org> <86woidyvbz.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> <837ead2glo.fsf@gnu.org> <86woic4fd5.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> <83r28j2560.fsf@gnu.org> <86muj7u789.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> <83lfyr20tx.fsf@gnu.org> <86ftozf97u.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> <78E3DB0A-BBAC-4822-B0B9-7A81CEC05D70@gnu.org> <86k1ebdtn9.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> <87o8ibchg9.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> <838s9fhv9e.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtxumqd4.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> <87bleamlxq.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12487"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android Cc: 32599@debbugs.gnu.org To: jsbien@mimuw.edu.pl Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 31 10:07:09 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kutvJ-00039x-70 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:07:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38638 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kutvH-0007od-RZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2020 04:07:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56988) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kutvC-0007oI-4g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2020 04:07:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:41160) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kutvB-00066M-Tm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2020 04:07:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kutvB-00008N-P1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2020 04:07:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 09:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32599 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 32599-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32599.1609405602486 (code B ref 32599); Thu, 31 Dec 2020 09:07:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 32599) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Dec 2020 09:06:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52706 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kutur-00007m-RJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2020 04:06:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35576) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kutur-00007b-0n for 32599@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2020 04:06:41 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44681) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kutuj-0005vT-Mw; Thu, 31 Dec 2020 04:06:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a02:14f:1ff:5d7d::cb0e:2196] (port=40986) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kutui-000302-Co; Thu, 31 Dec 2020 04:06:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87bleamlxq.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:197077 Archived-At: On December 31, 2020 10:14:41 AM GMT+02:00, jsbien@mimuw=2Eedu=2Epl wrote: > On Thu, Dec 31 2020 at 9:49 +02, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > On December 31, 2020 8:39:03 AM GMT+02:00, jsbien@mimuw=2Eedu=2Epl > wrote: > >> So the PUA names are to be added to ucs-names in mule-cmds=2Eel=2E At > >> first > >> glance it doesn't seem difficult, as I already have them in the > form > >> of=20 > >> uni-name=2Eel=2E I will work on it after New Year=2E > > > > What would be the advantage of adding names for PUA codepoints? >=20 > To make it clear: I'm not adding names to PUA codepoints, I add to > Emacs > the names already in use for some PUA codepoints=2E >=20 > > The disadvantage is clear: bloating the Emacs process memory > footprint > > by some 137,000 strings of some non-descriptive form, like > > PUA-CHARACTER-nn=2E >=20 > What do you need PUA-CHARACTER-nn for? I never proposed anything like > this=2E >=20 > Moreover: >=20 > There is always price for everything=2E >=20 > BTW, not 137,000 but 739 for MUFI 4=2E0 and a little more for the > current=20 > version=2E OK, it wasn't clear that you want to add MUFI codepoints=2E However, if that is the intent, I think we should first discuss whether we= want to add PUA codepoints defined by the different initiatives, and if so= , which ones=2E MUFI is not the only such collections, there are others=2E We could instead wait until these codepoints are incorporated into the Uni= code Standard (as already happened with some MUFI codepoints)=2E Or we mig= ht decide that we want to add some infrastructure which could be used by us= ers to add support for ranges of PUA without adding that by default=2E IOW, I think this kind of changes should be discussed first, and the place= to discuss them is not here, it's on emacs-devel=2E