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[108.26.204.101]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t184-20020a3791c1000000b0069fc13ce209sm1347214qkd.58.2022.05.21.06.41.42 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 21 May 2022 06:41:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <838rqv9wnp.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:232833 Archived-At: On May 21, 2022, at 3:23 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >=20 > I've now improved the doc strings and prompts, on the release branch, > per this discussion. >=20 > Any more issues, or can we close this? I think the new prompts will be very helpful. I think the new use of "abbreviation" in the inverse- flavor of the commands will help. For the non-inverse commands I'd love to see the "word(s)" construction retained as it jumps out when skimming the docstring and is a bit more accurate. So how about: (defun add-mode-abbrev (arg) "Define a mode-specific abbrev which expands into the word(s) before = point. (defun add-global-abbrev (arg) "Define a global (all modes) abbrev which expands into word(s) before = point. Howard