From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Scott Bell Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#5331: Term mode doesn't set tty erase Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 10:06:54 -0700 Message-ID: <6CE7E79E-7064-4D14-8946-44B568EC8C16@me.com> References: <2E5E576A-1165-4754-9C47-0CFDAAED4977@me.com> <201001070827.o078RbDP002615@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <460078AB-C49F-4C5C-96FE-7724132F4739@me.com> <201001072135.o07LZKBJ001202@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> Reply-To: Scott Bell , 5331@debbugs.gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1262972335 27912 80.91.229.12 (8 Jan 2010 17:38:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 17:38:55 +0000 (UTC) To: 5331@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 08 18:38:47 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NTInO-00048V-FI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:38:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56957 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NTInP-0005dO-54 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:38:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NTIUJ-0007aZ-Cq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:19:03 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NTIUD-0007SI-94 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:19:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34094 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NTIUC-0007S1-RO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:18:56 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:33454) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NTIUC-0004Ji-Dy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:18:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NTIJe-0004g1-70; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:08:02 -0500 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Followup-To: Scott Bell , 5331@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Scott Bell Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 17:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 5331 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,ns X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 5331-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5331.126297042917963 (code B ref 5331); Fri, 08 Jan 2010 17:08:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 5331) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jan 2010 17:07:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NTIIn-0004fg-DY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:07:09 -0500 Original-Received: from asmtpout030.mac.com ([17.148.16.105]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NTIIl-0004fb-Pq for 5331@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:07:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([70.72.209.234]) by asmtp030.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KVX00807U7MTB70@asmtp030.mac.com> for 5331@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:06:59 -0800 (PST) In-reply-to: <201001072135.o07LZKBJ001202@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:08:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:37:28 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:34081 Archived-At: On 2010-01-07, at 2:35 PM, Dan Nicolaescu wrote: > Scott Bell writes: > >> On 2010-01-07, at 1:27 AM, Dan Nicolaescu wrote: >> >>> Scott Bell writes: >>> >>>> ... >>>> >>>> It seems like the least surprising thing would be to define >>>> erase to ^? so that most programs will behave as expected >>>> when the DEL key is typed. >>> >>> I can't reproduce this on GNU/Linux and Solaris. >>> This is probably a Mac OS X problem which not too many people here have >>> access to... >>> Do you get the same results with /bin/tcsh? >> >> It looks like tcsh is the only one where erase >> is defined: >> >> bash: >> zsh: >> tcsh: ^? >> ksh: >> >> When these shells are launched using Terminal.app >> (the terminal emulator that ships with Mac OS), erase >> is always bound to ^?. > > term.el does not do anything special for tcsh, so because it works > there, it's probably a problem in the initialization of the other > shells, not in term.el. I agree. It seems like a shame that Mac OS relies on the default emulator (Terminal.app) to perform this initialization.