From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steve Purcell Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8402: Acknowledgement (24.0.50; Hex colors are not rendered correctly on OS X (Cocoa)) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 22:24:36 +0100 Message-ID: <6B42FB8F-1F2A-43A1-AA79-E7E38076B0A6@sanityinc.com> References: <8591B978-B263-4A6B-B65E-B18B45C76CFD@gmail.com> <5F0512AE-418C-4830-A4B5-BA06140A4CD2@sanityinc.com> <878vvhk9zj.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4DC185A8.7080907@harpegolden.net> <5EDBC6E6-C26F-4D4A-A05B-EB2B7F8F657C@sanityinc.com> <4DC25C7E.1080702@harpegolden.net> <641B1425-8895-4989-B3D4-C288EBC2A3F9@sanityinc.com> <4DC28668.10609@harpegolden.net> <4DC2A0FB.7080209@harpegolden.net> <4DC32A5A.2090006@harpegolden.net> <617DC9CC-3396-4F7E-B290-67449B33DC39@sanityinc.com> <4DC4532F.8010204@harpegolden.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1304717112 27288 80.91.229.12 (6 May 2011 21:25:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 21:25:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 8402@debbugs.gnu.org, Erik Andrejko , Chong Yidong To: David De La Harpe Golden Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 06 23:25:07 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QISWJ-0005zY-Em for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 May 2011 23:25:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49123 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QISWI-0004Tz-Uj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 May 2011 17:25:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:55396) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QISWF-0004Sl-Eg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2011 17:25:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QISWE-0004cC-BT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2011 17:25:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:50991) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QISWE-0004c8-8P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2011 17:25:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QISWD-0006Ss-J7; Fri, 06 May 2011 17:25:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Steve Purcell Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 21:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8402 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 8402-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8402.130471708724828 (code B ref 8402); Fri, 06 May 2011 21:25:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8402) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 May 2011 21:24:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QISVz-0006SP-1O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2011 17:24:47 -0400 Original-Received: from h1189701.stratoserver.net ([85.214.32.38]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QISVx-0006SD-Cr for 8402@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2011 17:24:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mandala.home (host86-151-32-155.range86-151.btcentralplus.com [86.151.32.155]) by h1189701.stratoserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E9731ECD822; Fri, 6 May 2011 23:24:37 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <4DC4532F.8010204@harpegolden.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 17:25:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:46296 Archived-At: On 6 May 2011, at 20:59, David De La Harpe Golden wrote: > I still don't know exactly what DigitalColor Meter is doing. Same here. > > Nonetheless, I think the browsers are getting it right by doing what > > users expect, >=20 > Er. I think that's sorta the wrong way round, what's happening is that > browsers are starting to generate user expectations for other apps - > like yours. Browsers, again, are flat-out required to use sRGB [5]. = Web > folk of course are a major group of emacs users, so it's IMO worth > catering to their needs. But I'm not sure it's sufficient reason to > switch the default on its own, more of an argument for adding the > switching capability previously discussed. +1. > Though if emacs were to wholeheartedly adopt a standard interpretation > of intraemacs color strings on all color-management-capable platforms, > then Apple Generic RGB would obviously be a hopeless basis (though = could > still be provided for with a prefix, say, "AppleGenericRGB:r/g/b"). >=20 > Perhaps it could be semiseriously argued that emacs, as it is capable > of acting as a quite usable web browser via w3 or emacs-w3m, should = use > sRGB and the web named-colors values. I certainly think there's an opportunity to review the status quo on all = supported window systems, and to figure out if there's a desire/basis = for standardization on something like sRGB. I'm going to bow out, because I don't think I have any further insights = to offer. > [4] TextMate is even the first text editor in quite a while to do = anything particularly interesting from the emacs community perspective - = right now, you have to add the sorta-kludgey "mumamo" found in the = "nxhtml" suite for emacs to catch up with it in some areas. Agreed - I use the somewhat-antiquated MMM mode myself, which has less = baggage than mumamo, but is decidedly creaky.