From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15599: [PATCH] Inferior Lisp Mode Menu Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 08:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <69159453-2a43-42b8-b1a3-c9da282490c4@default> References: <20131012170846.GA688@jo.hnanthony.com> <20131023214701.GA8211@jo.hnanthony.com> <561snf83x.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1382626884 27644 80.91.229.3 (24 Oct 2013 15:01:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:01:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15599@debbugs.gnu.org, John Anthony To: Stefan Monnier , Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 24 17:01:28 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VZMPf-00022F-5e for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:01:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54774 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZMPe-000253-QM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:01:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39059) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZMPS-0001pi-Hh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:01:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZMPG-0003ol-CW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:01:14 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:55454) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZMPG-0003oh-AS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:01:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VZMPF-0000vk-Ne for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:01:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15599 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 15599-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15599.13826268583566 (code B ref 15599); Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:01:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15599) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2013 15:00:58 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41240 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VZMPB-0000vR-Dy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:00:57 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:33544) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VZMP9-0000vE-9T for 15599@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:00:55 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r9OF0lTr025062 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:00:48 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r9OF0krW029429 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:00:46 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt109.oracle.com (abhmt109.oracle.com [141.146.116.61]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r9OF0kDB013317; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:00:46 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:79589 Archived-At: > > I'd leave such an item always enabled. >=20 > Agreed. I can see two reasons for it: > - these "enabled" tests are run, pretty much all the time, so they > need to be sufficiently "quick" not to disrupt normal work. Testing > if the last sexp is properly balanced may have to scan megabytes of > text (even if it usually is not the case), so it can slow things down > noticeably. > - it should be reasonably obvious to the user why a menu entry is > disabled, and I think most users wouldn't find this one to be > obvious. Yes. The first reason is pretty important, and needs to be taken into consideration even when there are not megabytes to scan etc. Pretty much any :enable or :visible test needs to be simple & quick. Dunno whether this is mentioned in the manual, but I think it should be, as a useful guideline.