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Thu, 22 Sep 2016 17:04:28 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6753.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:123552 Archived-At: emacs -Q C-h r g Dired C-s `list finds nothing, missing the occurrence of =E2=80=98list-directory=E2=80=99 t= hat is in the same node. What looks exactly (AFAICT) like the backquote you typed at the prompt is NOT the same as the character that precedes "list-directory" in the buffer. And it is not matched to that character by Isearch. That character is LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK. What you see is definitely NOT what you get. And you wonder... Emacs provides a default font where these two characters are visually indistinguishable. And then it distinguishes them by default when you try to search. This is extremely user-UNfriendly. The default font for Emacs should be changed. Or else search should, by default, find the character used when you type a backquote char. Or else the character used, by default, should be backquote, not LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK. Or some other reasonable solution should be found, to remedy this annoyance. The DEFAULT behavior of Emacs should not be so confusing, user-unfriendly, cumbersome, and, well, unusable. It is a common operation to search through our manuals for names that are within "single-quote" delimiters. In the past, these delimiters were backquote and apostrophe: `...', and keys that insert those chars are nearly ubiquitous on western keyboards. Not so, the "single-quote" delimiters used now. Hard to believe this annoyance has gotten as far as it has (release 25.1). Did no one try searching our manuals using Emacs -Q? In GNU Emacs 25.1.1 (x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2016-09-17 built on LAPHROAIG Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: 'configure --without-dbus --without-compress-install CFLAGS=3D-static'