From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 15117@debbugs.gnu.org, lekktu@gmail.com, larsi@gnus.org
Subject: bug#15117: 24.3.50; doc of `(forward|backward)-*': state return value
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:29:24 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <67b917ca-8b69-49fd-9e12-68da310f7567@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8361oltxu1.fsf@gnu.org>
> If you (Drew) want that something productive comes out of this,
> please point out specific forward/backward-* functions that return
> non-trivial values, and those values are not documented. The only 2
> functions mentioned since the beginning of this discussion are
> forward/backward-sexp, which always return nil, a.k.a. "nothing". I
> also tried a couple of other random functions, and they seem all to
> be of this "nothing" kind. So I wonder whether we have any real
> problem here.
I would like to see functions that are purely motion functions
return `point', the destination position, unless there is a more
useful return value (as is already the case for a function such as
`forward-comment' or `forward-button').
IOW, some useful value is better than none. Note: I have nothing
against picking a _more_ useful value than `point'. Point is just
a default suggestion. For an example of a more useful value, see
`forward-comment': it sets `point' but returns t or nil.
And document that return value. Here are some candidates, for a
start (likewise, their backward relatives, and other relatives,
such as `up-list', `down-list', `backward-up-list'...).
forward-char
forward-list ; already returns `point'
forward-page ; returns count
forward-same-syntax
forward-sentence
forward-sexp
forward-symbol
forward-thing
forward-to-indentation
forward-visible-line
forward-whitespace
forward-word
We can look for other motion functions to treat similarly after
this start. Assuming there is any will to do this.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-02-11 17:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-17 15:59 bug#15117: 24.3.50; doc of `(forward|backward)-*': state return value Drew Adams
2014-02-08 5:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-10 0:12 ` Drew Adams
2014-02-10 2:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-10 2:45 ` Drew Adams
2014-02-10 16:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-10 21:16 ` Drew Adams
2014-02-11 1:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-02-11 6:40 ` Drew Adams
2014-02-11 1:28 ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-02-11 6:43 ` Drew Adams
2014-02-11 16:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-02-11 17:29 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2014-02-11 18:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-02-11 18:42 ` Andreas Röhler
2014-02-11 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-02-11 19:13 ` Drew Adams
2014-02-11 19:26 ` Andreas Röhler
2014-02-11 17:36 ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-02-11 2:52 ` Glenn Morris
2014-02-11 4:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-11 10:52 ` Andreas Röhler
2014-02-11 11:16 ` Nicolas Richard
2014-02-11 12:10 ` Andreas Röhler
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2014-02-11 18:14 ` Drew Adams
2014-02-11 18:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2014-02-11 18:26 ` Drew Adams
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