From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: 19217@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#19217: 25.0.50; `C-M-x' (`eval-defun') on a `defface' that is not top-level
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 12:51:59 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6718ace6-b672-40fc-a5bc-ea29eb155239@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141130195811.GB12974@acm.acm>
> > > You can also move point to just after the closing ) and do C-x
> > > C-e (`eval-last-sexp').
>
> > I too thought that was the case, but it does not seem to be. I
> > just tried it, starting with emacs -Q in several Emacs versions
> > (22, 24.4, 25 dev build).
>
> I've never had a problem with C-x C-e that I can remember, and that
> includes several times with point after a random ) inside a defun.
> What happens when you do C-x C-e with point just after the `defface'
> form?
As I said, nothing happens.
emacs -Q
Put this in *scratch*, and evaluate it:
(when t
(defface foo '((((background dark)) (:foreground "#58DFFA4FFFFF"))
(t (:foreground "Firebrick")))
"A face." :group 'help)
)
`M-x customize-face' shows that it is defined as it should be.
Edit the definition, replacing "Firebrick" with "Blue". Put point
just after the defface sexp and hit `C-x C-e'. `M-x customize-face'
shows that no change was made. Feel free to blow away the Customize
buffer completely, so you are sure that you're not just seeing what
was there before. ;-)
Edit the color to "Green". Put point on the symbol `defface' and
hit `C-M-x' - likewise, still no change to the face.
> > > > How about letting users redefine a `defface' with `C-M-x' even
> > > > in this case?
>
> > > How is Emacs to determine which depth of parenthesis is to be
> > > considered the opening one? For example, if a defface is
> > > contained within a defmacro, which one is to be executed on C-M-x?
>
> > I really don't care about corner cases, if in fact there are any.
>
> What exactly are you suggesting?
See above. (1) `C-x C-e' should work as you say it works.
(2) `C-M-x' with point inside a defface sexp should also work.
If the latter cannot easily be made to work with point anywhere
inside the sexp, then at least make it work with point on `defface'
or near it (e.g. at the same list level).
> That `defface' be made a special case,
If that's necessary, yes. It should be made to work, whether that
means special-casing it or not.
Currently, `C-M-x' inside a defun that is not at top level does not
have the problem that defface has. Repeat the above recipe, but
with (defun toto () "Toto." (forward-char)) in place of the defface
sexp. Edit it after evalling, to use `backward-char', and use
`C-M-x' again. Check the definition before and after editing, using
(symbol-function 'toto). No problem. Not so, for defface.
> and that if any of the sequence of enclosing (s opens a `defface'
> form, this should be the one chosen for execution? Or should any
> defining function count? What is special about `defface'?
No idea what you are going on about; sorry.
> > You could even require that point be on the symbol `defface' in
> > the sexp, for all I care. Then it should be trivial to grab the
> > `defface' sexp (e.g., use `(list-at-point)').
>
> > The point is to have some way to reevaluate the defface sexp. If
> > `C-x C-e' worked, that would be enough, but AFAICT it does not
> > work.
>
> What happens when you try it?
See above. 100% reproducible from emacs -Q. What happens when
you try it? ;-)
> > > > Is there a good reason for doing this only at top-level?
>
> > > I think it is to make it unambiguous, which form is to be
> > > evaluated.
>
> > Dunno how `C-x C-e' could be ambiguous wrt the sexp that precedes
> > point. If the sexp preceding point is ambiguous then I think
> > we're probably in a world of trouble. ;-)
>
> Neither C-M-x not C-x C-e are ambiguous. The first evaluates the
> top level form containing point, the second the sexp immediately
> preceding point.
They should. But they do not, in the case of defface. See above.
Try it.
> > Coming back to `C-M-x': Then don't seek perfection. Require that
> > point be closer to the list enclosing `defface' than to another
> > list when you try `C-M-x', in order for it to unambiguously pick
> > up the right sexp.
>
> I'm not sure how you're going to construe "closer", given that a
> list typically extends over many characters and when point is
> within it, that must count as distance zero. Or something.
It's trivial to determine whether point is at the same list level
as the `defface' symbol.
> > What am I missing?
>
> A detailed clear specification of what you want.
I don't think I'm (or you are) missing that. Have you tried it?
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2014-11-29 20:08 ` bug#19217: 25.0.50; `C-M-x' (`eval-defun') on a `defface' that is not top-level Drew Adams
2014-11-30 19:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-30 20:51 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2014-11-30 23:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-12-01 0:00 ` Drew Adams
2014-12-06 19:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-12-10 22:20 ` Drew Adams
2014-12-13 3:07 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-18 13:36 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-18 15:53 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-19 14:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-15 14:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-15 15:29 ` Drew Adams
2020-10-15 15:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-15 16:15 ` Drew Adams
2014-11-29 18:13 Drew Adams
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2014-11-29 19:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-12-01 3:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-01 4:29 ` Drew Adams
2014-12-01 13:49 ` Stefan Monnier
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2014-12-01 17:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
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