From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6799: 24.0.50; Please add dired-details.el to Emacs [patch] Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:05:06 -0700 Message-ID: <65D921448B0644988BE6445A2EF3E021@us.oracle.com> References: <9C9137560F644E759AD573BBBD8E59EF@us.oracle.com><5EA47A0255F8494DB430B52D46876641@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1334261162 21550 80.91.229.3 (12 Apr 2012 20:06:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Juanma Barranquero' , 6799@debbugs.gnu.org, rob@giardina.us To: "'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 12 22:06:00 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SIQHF-000574-Qx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:05:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45996 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SIQHF-0005uR-5o for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:05:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46692) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SIQHB-0005tg-4a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:05:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SIQH6-0000cn-2t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:05:52 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:58356) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SIQH5-0000cj-VP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:05:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SIQIH-0003Lr-Qq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:07:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6799 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 6799-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6799.133426118812841 (code B ref 6799); Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:07:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6799) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Apr 2012 20:06:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54894 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SIQHj-0003L4-KZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:06:28 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:51008) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SIQHg-0003Ku-VQ for 6799@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:06:26 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q3CK58xC018944 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:05:09 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q3CK57rt027282 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:05:08 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt101.oracle.com (abhmt101.oracle.com [141.146.116.53]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q3CK57ux002210; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:05:07 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:05:07 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Thread-Index: Ac0Y4EANspXe4sJPTQeVD8GUhihEggABA/3w X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090209.4F873575.008E,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:58938 Archived-At: As I have said several times now, ask Rob Giardina. He made a whole set of changes to various Emacs files, including perhaps C code. I am not aware of what changes he made. Rob has sent mail as recently as 2011/11/29 to emacs-orgmode@gnu.org. His address for that was rob@giardina.us. (No, I do not subscribe to that mailing list. But I know how to use Google.) Please contact Rob. > > Please contact Rob Giardina. I believe that he patched the existing > > Dired code (and some C code? and some other Lisp code?), doing > > everything that was needed. > > If you want this code included in Emacs, please assemble the patch and > post it here. It is not a question of "if I want". It was decided by RMS that this should be included in Emacs. Long, long ago. Rob did the work required for this to happen, but no one ever committed it, AFAIK. What I use, personally, is dired-details.el plus dired-details+.el, and they suffice. But Rob went to the trouble of patching Emacs in various places, integrating the features cleanly at a more basic level etc. I have no idea what Rob's changes were, but if you search the mailing list perhaps you can find references to them. Rob refers to a patch for 2005-07-07 CVS, here: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/74172 Here is the last mail from Rob on the subject, AFAIK: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-07/msg00215.html Here is my last mail on the subject, with relevant links: > From: Drew Adams Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 7:34 AM > > I discovered dired-details and dired-details+ and found them useful. > > Could they be added to emacs? > > > > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/DiredDetails > > They were supposed to be added. Rob Giardina submitted an > Emacs 23 patch two years ago that integrates the functionality > of both in a better way even than the separate libraries > dired-details[+].el. > > I don't think any reason was ever given for why the patch > wasn't incorporated (committed). RMS asked for comment on > the merged code, but no one ever answered his request > (on emacs-devel, at least). The last time I ping'ed the > list about this was 2008-07 - I never got an answer either. > > Last ping: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-07/msg01152.html > > Rob's change log and RMS's call for comment: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-07/msg01187.html > > Original thread: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-07/msg00226.html