From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#60568: [FR] 30.0.50; Help buffers and function bodies for generated functions Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2023 14:04:13 +0000 Message-ID: <6538f58eb5857d2eb07b@heytings.org> References: <87fscpifdw.fsf@localhost> <83wn61w7lc.fsf@gnu.org> <8dea9f3e0e7865d8f3c6@heytings.org> <83r0w9vzgy.fsf@gnu.org> <8dea9f3e0e8e6114ffc3@heytings.org> <83pmbtvwyr.fsf@gnu.org> <8dea9f3e0e160e17818f@heytings.org> <83mt6xvsct.fsf@gnu.org> <8dea9f3e0ea1de84c49a@heytings.org> <83cz7sw4q1.fsf@gnu.org> <371ba1d0beb0ed44a9a6@heytings.org> <371ba1d0be96347bdf60@heytings.org> <83k01yu93p.fsf@gnu.org> <6538f58eb5cc153a2250@heytings.org> <874jt2lb1t.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11671"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , mardani29@yahoo.es, Stefan Monnier , 60568@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 07 15:05:25 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pE9p6-0002nC-TT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2023 15:05:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pE9oq-0006CT-Oz; Sat, 07 Jan 2023 09:05:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pE9ol-0006C4-9l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2023 09:05:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pE9ok-0004Da-WC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2023 09:05:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pE9ok-00034D-Bi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2023 09:05:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Gregory Heytings Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2023 14:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 60568 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 60568-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B60568.167310025811731 (code B ref 60568); Sat, 07 Jan 2023 14:05:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 60568) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2023 14:04:18 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56765 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pE9o1-000337-QZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2023 09:04:18 -0500 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:34834) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pE9nz-00032w-Ir for 60568@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2023 09:04:16 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1673100254; bh=fgwnZtoEx8IEtQbME7HrrpF8YhmoEj6sj1fHmJsgXDs=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=yZ9PmEn4j/bPxU9BEnd3MWztM8WToVl5fIYfjJ8FKWnEZ4mhIKOnmFi1ugXhRSLKG bC41boVYYuzNjDNjKwP9GXu2Fs8r0/jco0U779xnpORsMQ2lwmjfCnJbqIZ1uF/fN8 6MHzwXdeGGl81iNe7Zph7XyerqpwKBgT/IkbsQIDGtMifzZvayypeOugeHCC9hS8L1 lakNTBuenHK+vPGysOjCVtFUngYYBvsoXpcEbWwX7mhPTkyOOEFGbt/tj4B52U+ale 3C8yOZHcmpj/yWh0UyFQhWsjKYVLYcrPpCGaaeri0fURGiuP1vEpRgi5niUQrZZAbI /bKWNt8fb3nKg== In-Reply-To: <874jt2lb1t.fsf@localhost> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:252806 Archived-At: >>> Maybe people will know better if definition-name would be documented. >> >> I think the place where it should be documented is the suggested *Help* >> screen, with a sentence like "To ensure an accurate identification of >> the place where `frobnicate' was defined, the definition-name slot of >> the `frobnicate' symbol should be set." > > But is it of interest for _users_? I'd rather see it in Elisp manual. > It should be documented in the Elisp manual, indeed. What I said was a bit unclear: I meant that a reminder should be displayed in the *Help* buffer. With this, Elisp programmers who are not aware of that subtlety would become aware of it.