From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10773: set-variable can't change values of user options Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:31:32 -0500 Message-ID: <64pqdm4mtn.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87r4y4fik0.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <5w1uq3lv3z.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87sjijt2jv.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1328895119 25336 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2012 17:31:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:31:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 10773@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 10 18:31:58 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RvuKE-0002pe-4O for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:31:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52044 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvuKD-0002ee-NQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:31:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:47874) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvuK5-0002eM-W5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:31:55 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvuK4-0007xr-Pw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:31:49 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:59777) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvuK4-0007xn-LR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:31:48 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RvuLG-0008Jr-Br for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:33:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10773 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 10773-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10773.132889517131963 (code B ref 10773); Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:33:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 10773) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2012 17:32:51 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35167 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RvuL5-0008JU-M4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:32:51 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:54113 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RvuL3-0008JM-GV for 10773@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:32:50 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvuJp-0006wQ-Hu; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:31:33 -0500 X-Spook: clandestine $400 million in gold bullion Soviet mania NSA X-Ran: U[xfrPYS1Ac}>P|$E""Pozidg}~tNau}DZg;.#ernym+5hQHf (Juri Linkov's message of "Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:18:56 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:56767 Archived-At: Juri Linkov wrote: > Currently William Stevenson is working on converting minor modes to use > `define-minor-mode', so more minor mode hooks will lose an ability to be > changed using `set-variable'. I don't have an opinion whether this is > good or bad. I think it is irrelevant / good. > What I still don't understand is why some hooks have "*" in the docstring. Perhaps it depends whether one interprets "*" as meaning "something a user might want to set in .emacs", or "something a user might want to set interactively" (this is what "Tips and Conventions" says).