From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20483: 25.0.50; Customize buffer `Show' for whole option: return previously shown display Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 10:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <631e8064-f236-4389-bd63-e39351f3d221@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1430503342 27608 80.91.229.3 (1 May 2015 18:02:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 18:02:22 +0000 (UTC) To: 20483@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 01 20:02:08 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFGI-0002Fs-QP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 20:02:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55075 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFGI-0001jl-4F for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 14:02:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60138) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFCT-0003su-QF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 13:58:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFCN-0005A7-5x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 13:58:09 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:48940) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFCN-00059Q-1w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 13:58:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFCM-0004qV-Qd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 13:58:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 17:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 20483 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.143050303918569 (code B ref -1); Fri, 01 May 2015 17:58:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 May 2015 17:57:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58915 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFBf-0004pR-20 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 13:57:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46347) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFBc-0004pB-Fk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 13:57:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFBW-0004vH-CM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 13:57:11 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:38362) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFBW-0004vD-9t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 13:57:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59813) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFBR-00018M-7j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 13:57:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFBN-0004tf-7I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 13:57:05 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:24594) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFBM-0004tT-Qd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 13:57:01 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t41Hux7E024110 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 1 May 2015 17:56:59 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t41HuwRq001670 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 1 May 2015 17:56:59 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0001.oracle.com (abhmp0001.oracle.com [141.146.116.7]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t41HuwU2019476 for ; Fri, 1 May 2015 17:56:58 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:102337 Archived-At: You can consider this an enhancement request. Essentially, it removes control by the main hide/show button from deciding what gets shown wrt the doc string. It gives that doc-string control only to the other hide/show button, which is designed for doc-string visibility control. emacs -Q M-x customize-option blink-cursor-mode By default, everything is shown. There are two `Hide' buttons: 1. At the far left, to hide everything other than the option name and the first line of the doc string. 2. After the first line of the doc string. Click #1, to hide (almost) everything. That button changes to `Show Value', and the other `Hide' button changes to `More'. Which is OK (but see below, about the name of button `Show Value'). Click #1 again. It should return to the previous state, but button #2 still says `More' and the rest of the doc string is still hidden. IOW, #1 should toggle between hiding (almost) everything and returning to whatever was shown before it was clicked to hide stuff. Another way to see that this proposed behavior would be better: Click the `More' button (#2), to show all of the doc string. Then click #1, to hide (almost) everything. Then click #1 again. A user would reasonably expect it to show what was last shown wrt the doc string, i.e., the full doc string. IOW, #1 should not decide what it *shows*, wrt #2 (but it is OK for it to decide what it hides). If this gets fixed as described then `Show Value' should be renamed just `Show'. The main hide/show button (#1) should toggle between (a) hiding everything except the option name and first doc line and (b) showing everything, except as last decided by button #2. This lets the user use #2 (and only #2) to decide about the doc string display, and use #1 to hide a maximum of stuff. In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2015-04-05 on LEG570 Bzr revision: 16eec6fc55dcc05d1d819f18998e84a9580b2521 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --host=3Di686-pc-mingw32 --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs'