From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: 18005@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#18005: 24.4.50; In Emacs manual, tell users how to enter debugger for `user-error' errors
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 10:59:57 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6261d1cf-2fa0-48a4-a8f0-0727d270c0f2@default> (raw)
The only hint about how to make Emacs enter the debugger for errors
deemed `user-error' is this mention, buried in the
`debug-ignored-errors' entry of the Elisp manual:
The normal value of this variable includes `user-error', as well
as several errors that happen often during editing but rarely
result from bugs in Lisp programs. However, "rarely" is not
"never"; if your program fails with an error that matches this
list, you may try changing this list to debug the error. The
easiest way is usually to set `debug-ignored-errors' to `nil'.
(FWIW, wrt this text: Is it really necessary to point out that
users can want to enter the debugger for other reasons that
tracking down a Lisp bug?)
It should be made *obvious* to users, in the *Emacs* manual, how to make
the debugger open for so-called "user errors".
In particular, some mention of how to do this should be added to any
descriptions of `debug-on-error' and `toggle-debug-on-error'. Yes,
*especially* since these have NO effect on this. Users will try these
and not understand how to get what they want in this regard. Here
is one proof: http://superuser.com/q/782313/250462.
(Hard to believe that something presumably designed with end users in
mind would not be documented wrt how to access the debugger. Of
course, `user-error' has NOTHING to do with user errors anyway...)
In GNU Emacs 24.4.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
of 2014-06-28 on ODIEONE
Bzr revision: 117431 rgm@gnu.org-20140628015517-eku6hj8mpgcvfnso
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601
Configured using:
`configure --prefix=/c/Devel/emacs/snapshot/trunk
--enable-checking=yes,glyphs 'CFLAGS=-O0 -g3'
LDFLAGS=-Lc:/Devel/emacs/lib 'CPPFLAGS=-DGC_MCHECK=1
-Ic:/Devel/emacs/include''
next reply other threads:[~2014-07-12 17:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-12 17:59 Drew Adams [this message]
2014-07-13 1:35 ` bug#18005: 24.4.50; In Emacs manual, tell users how to enter debugger for `user-error' errors Glenn Morris
2014-07-13 2:41 ` Drew Adams
2014-07-13 21:54 ` Richard Stallman
2016-04-29 21:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-04-29 22:53 ` Drew Adams
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