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(127.0.0.1) by hercules.uberspace.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2017 11:20:35 -0000 In-Reply-To: <87d18ai84f.fsf@linux-m68k.org> Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:135412 Archived-At: >> So I agree with the previous comment that LANG should take precedence >> over LC_CTYPE with regards to the interface language. Not sure if the >> current emacs implementation allows that change without affecting the >> settings where LC_CTYPE does change precedence over LANG. > > LANG never takes precedence over other LC_* values, it only serves as > the default for them. An interface that uses LC_CTYPE must ignore LANG > when LC_CTYPE is set. I agree that LC_CTYPE always takes precedence for the things that LC_CTYPE defines according to the POSIX standard. However, as far as I understand the display language is not defined by LC_CTYPE. LC_CTYPE defines "Character classification and case conversion". The closest would be LC_MESSAGES ("Formats of informative and diagnostic messages and interactive responses."). I just tried, and for example vim uses indeed LC_MESSAGES to decide on the interface language. So does Chromium and KDE applications such as okular..