From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46837: Makefile dependencies for info files Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2021 12:38:38 -0500 Message-ID: <5nczwcqj1d.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <2eeeguus2h.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <834khqys2n.fsf@gnu.org> <838s71xsve.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38067"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) Cc: 46837@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 06 18:39:12 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lIatT-0009nF-3m for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 18:39:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51676 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lIatS-0007kn-6b for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 12:39:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51226) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lIatL-0007jo-5h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 12:39:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:54912) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lIatK-0002aG-Un for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 12:39:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIatK-0001Hd-Rw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 12:39:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2021 17:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46837 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: help Original-Received: via spool by 46837-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46837.16150523284892 (code B ref 46837); Sat, 06 Mar 2021 17:39:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46837) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Mar 2021 17:38:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38221 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIat6-0001Gp-EM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 12:38:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33268) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIat4-0001Ga-Cm for 46837@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 12:38:46 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42863) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lIasz-0002Tv-62 for 46837@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 12:38:41 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lIasw-0000Ab-Ee; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 12:38:38 -0500 X-Spook: emc Cyber terror FINCEN Yakima Privacy SUSLO SAFE UTU X-Ran: ?<1GpS+k$fVYq>{8Wgz(KVl<*.i*wFl_lCo/MDDH~uM{%b#N!EBFkJU4VX0$Ef'1JY+]rU X-Hue: brightwhite X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <838s71xsve.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 05 Mar 2021 22:12:05 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:201648 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > So it will fail even if all the Info files are already in the tree, > when makeinfo is not available? Or are you saying that in order for > "make" not to fail one must touch not just info/emacs.info, but also > all the rest of the *.info files? ? If all the info file are already there, make will see that they are newer than their dependencies, so it won't try to rebuild them. There's no need to "touch" anything, and I would/did not recommend doing so. > No argument there, I was talking about fire escape. After all, we are > removing a "feature" that existed in previous releases. --without-makeinfo was always irrelevant in _releases_, where the info files are pre-built. > It would be good to tell people how to get back the old behavior, I > think. They can always do "make lisp" (I think) instead of "make [all]". Or you can add a target "all-noinfo" which is just "all" without "info", but I don't know who the users of such a target would be.