bug#3695: 23.0.94; kill-whole-line has no effect

bug#3695: 23.0.94; kill-whole-line has no effect

[Teemu Likonen]

On 2009-06-27 13:07 (+0400), Андрей Парамонов wrote:

> I've looked through the change by Chong Yidong, and it seems to be
> different from your patch. Your patch does respect the kill-whole-line
> option. Does it have some problems compared to the committed change?

As far as I know my patch doesn't have other problems, and indeed it
preserves the kill-whole-line functionality.

> I think kill-visual-line must behave exactly as kill-line, if the text
> line consists of just one visual line. Otherwise it's a regression.

Probably I'd expect that too but I have no strong opinion for this.

bug#3695: 23.0.94; kill-whole-line has no effect

[Андрей Парамонов]

If a line consists of a single visual line, C-k should behave the same
way as it used to work in Emacs 22 (kill the whole line). Do you
agree?

Is it possible to implement the following behavior?

`kill-visual-line' with no arg at beg of line kills the whole line, if
a line consists of a single visual line.

Thanks for your effort,
Andrey

bug#3695: 23.0.94; kill-whole-line has no effect

[Teemu Likonen]

On 2009-06-27 12:42 (+0300), Teemu Likonen wrote:

> On 2009-06-27 13:07 (+0400), Андрей Парамонов wrote:
>
>> I've looked through the change by Chong Yidong, and it seems to be
>> different from your patch. Your patch does respect the kill-whole-line
>> option. Does it have some problems compared to the committed change?
>
> As far as I know my patch doesn't have other problems, and indeed it
> preserves the kill-whole-line functionality.

To make following this discussion easier I'll add link the bug report in
which the said patch is attached and where this change originated from:

http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3437

bug#3695: 23.0.94; kill-whole-line has no effect

[Chong Yidong]

> I think kill-visual-line must behave exactly as kill-line, if the text
> line consists of just one visual line. Otherwise it's a regression.

The docstring of kill-whole-line does not mention kill-visual-line:

  If non-nil, `kill-line' with no arg at beg of line kills the whole
  line.

You could argue that this can be extended to kill-visual-line, as
follows:

  `kill-visual-line' with no arg at beg of visual line kills the whole
  visual line.

but that doesn't make much sense, because kill-visual-line *already*
consumes the entire visual line.  In the normal case, kill-line consumes
the additional newline character at the end of the line, but
word-wrapped lines have no additional newline character to consume.

bug#3695: 23.0.94; kill-whole-line has no effect

[Андрей Парамонов]

Hello!

I've looked through the change by Chong Yidong, and it seems to be
different from your patch. Your patch does respect the kill-whole-line
option. Does it have some problems compared to the committed change?

I think kill-visual-line must behave exactly as kill-line, if the text
line consists of just one visual line. Otherwise it's a regression.

Thanks for a quick reply,
Andrey Paramonov

bug#3695: 23.0.94; kill-whole-line has no effect

[Teemu Likonen]

On 2009-06-27 11:15 (+0400), pent@aparamon.msk.ru wrote:

> In recent snapshots, setting kill-whole-line to t has no effect for
> Visual Line mode.

I think this is intentional:

    commit 9608255daf00ca5cd4030515ea74f0b41105d469
    Author: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
    Date:   2009-06-13 18:56:07 +0000

        * simple.el (kill-visual-line): Rewrite (Bug#3437).  Don't try to
        handle kill-whole-line, as it doesn't make sense in this context.

bug#3695: 23.0.94; kill-whole-line has no effect

[pent]

Hello!

In recent snapshots, setting kill-whole-line to t has no effect for
Visual Line mode.

I'm ready to provide additional info,
Andrey Paramonov

In GNU Emacs 23.0.94.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.16.2)
 of 2009-06-18 on elegiac, modified by Debian
 (emacs-snapshot package, version 1:20090618-1)
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