From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "ISHIKAWA,chiaki" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#26573: 25.1; emacs 25.1 crashes while I am killing a bunch of lines Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 13:26:58 +0900 Message-ID: <5e29d038-55ae-abfa-4fb1-1f9bf77bc0fc@yk.rim.or.jp> References: <7af6b7d7-03b5-490a-b02f-d196867b9828@yk.rim.or.jp> <87wpafrcxz.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87r2y9oxy9.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <3e4ebfef-16e4-4a7e-d591-557029c480c3@yk.rim.or.jp> <87lgohovi9.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1498364891 12149 195.159.176.226 (25 Jun 2017 04:28:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 04:28:11 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 Cc: 26573@debbugs.gnu.org To: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 25 06:28:06 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dOz9a-0002wU-B1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 06:28:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41208 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dOz9f-0002e2-8n for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 00:28:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58840) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dOz9Z-0002dh-LD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 00:28:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dOz9W-0000X1-Fv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 00:28:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:33512) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dOz9W-0000Ww-BF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 00:28:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dOz9V-0007pH-Vk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 00:28:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "ISHIKAWA,chiaki" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 04:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 26573 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 26573-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B26573.149836482630022 (code B ref 26573); Sun, 25 Jun 2017 04:28:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 26573) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jun 2017 04:27:06 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36189 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dOz8c-0007oA-GR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 00:27:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail06.siriuscloud.jp ([219.118.72.6]:36843) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dOz8a-0007nz-6E for 26573@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 00:27:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.0.111] (ntkngw435233.kngw.nt.ngn2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp [61.121.54.233]) (Authenticated sender: ishikawa@yk.rim.or.jp) by access06.SiriusCloud.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3wwK053kRDz672D; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 13:27:01 +0900 (JST) Authentication-Results: access06.SiriusCloud.jp; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (unprotected policy); dkim-atps=neutral In-Reply-To: <87lgohovi9.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> Content-Language: en-US X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at si-mail06 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:133860 Archived-At: On 2017/06/25 7:45, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net wrote: > "ISHIKAWA,chiaki" writes: > >> Yes, it is too bad that emacs has become a little unstable. >> Maybe the distributed souce code management system may have something >> to do with it. Before, developers were very careful and use only a >> single master repository thus messing it up would have been a cardinal >> sin, but >> nowadays, people can create various branches and merge them (at least >> so that it builds/compiles). BUT, the runtime behavior may suffer. >> Just my guess. > > These problems with the allocater have actually been triggered by a > glibc change. The malloc hooks were dropped which forces Emacs to use a > different configuration that had not been widely tested for a long time, > so meanwhile bugs had crept in. > So a different reason. I came to my pet conclusion too fast. I suspect that "configure" is a very difficult code to write correctly. Again, thank you for your e-mails. Emacs has been maintained in good condition by people like you. So thank you very much! Chiaki