From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 17983@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#17983: 24.4.50; digit keys in *Messages* unhelpful, hang Emacs, etc.
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:25:50 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5b50c416-76e8-4221-895b-386d8a192d2b@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<83y4w1b6s2.fsf@gnu.org>>
> > C-q 7 C-q 7 C-q 7. You see ^G inserted each time (except the first)
> > that you hit C-q (not when you hit 7), because 7 acts as a prefix arg
> > for the following ^Q. Wunderbar. A feature, no doubt.
>
> As Glenn points out, this is normal (and very old) behavior of C-q,
> which is well documented.
Yes, for inserting a char via an octal sequence. And yes, any number
of octal digits can be used. I had forgotten that this single 7 fell
into that use case.
So the behavior is normal: each C-q after the first ends the octal
sequence, so it is just 7, which is the code for ^G. Thanks for the
reminder that this is what I was seeing here.
It would be good, IMO, if there were some echo-area feedback when
you hit an octal digit after C-q. Please consider that enhancement
request.
> > C-q 7 7 7. Now Emacs is hosed - in Neverneverland. ESC ESC ESC no
> > good; C-g no good. No mouse, no keys, nada. And no CPU use. Just
> > hosed.
>
> Not here, it isn't. After "C-q 7 7 7", any key gets something
> inserted, and there's no hang. None.
As I said before, sometimes it happens and sometimes it does not.
I was not able to determine just when or why. Each time, I started
with emacs -Q, and the result was sometimes a hang and sometimes not.
I reproduced the hang several times, including several times in a
row (always from emacs -Q), but the same recipe sometimes did not
result in a hang.
> > Regardless of whether it freezes each time, if you hit C-q and then
> > 7 one or more times there is no feedback - already a no-no (bug).
>
> That's indeed a bug, worthy of a separate bug report.
See above. There should be no need for a separate report. This was
part of this report, from the beginning. If you want to create a
separate report for it or rename the subject to better reflect this,
feel free to do so.
I feel that I've reported the problem and asked that it be fixed.
If you find that part of what I reported is not a bug, and because
of that you want to ignore other parts and not fix them, that's
your prerogative.
> But everything else you describe isn't, or is not reproducible here.
See above.
> > C-q should simply quote the 7, as it should quote other characters you
> > type (including ^U, BTW).
>
> No, numeric characters after C-q behave specially.
(Only octal digits, to be specific - or whatever is specified by
`read-quoted-char-radix'.)
Yes, thanks for that reminder. I did not realize that that's what
I was seeing here (even though I have long used C-q to input an octal
sequence.)
next parent reply other threads:[~2014-07-10 16:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <<f55d790b-64ff-46a1-a051-55e9f9306599@default>
[not found] ` <<83y4w1b6s2.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-07-10 16:25 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2014-07-10 16:42 ` bug#17983: 24.4.50; digit keys in *Messages* unhelpful, hang Emacs, etc Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<83lhs1b5b9.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-07-10 16:26 ` Drew Adams
2014-07-10 2:35 Drew Adams
2014-07-10 2:42 ` Drew Adams
2014-07-10 7:10 ` Glenn Morris
2014-07-10 13:55 ` Drew Adams
2014-07-10 15:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-07-10 14:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-07-10 15:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
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