From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3370: 23.0.94; `comment-region' indents comment chars inappropriately Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 10:42:09 -0700 Message-ID: <5DAE248701D648E8811B62D7C16C5034@us.oracle.com> References: <87prdynkm5.fsf@cyd.mit.edu><87tz3admt1.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <4A19F427.40606@gnu.org><874ov9aivv.fsf@cyd.mit.edu><460B8A8EC0204F4A830B9EC10995A169@us.oracle.com> <87fxet9usz.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> Reply-To: Drew Adams , 3370@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1243288957 14688 80.91.229.12 (25 May 2009 22:02:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 22:02:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Dan Nicolaescu' , 3370@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, rms@gnu.org To: "'Chong Yidong'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 26 00:02:30 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M8iFU-0001UX-7j for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 May 2009 00:02:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50895 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M8iFS-00035m-UG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 May 2009 18:02:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M8iF5-0002xc-41 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 May 2009 18:01:59 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M8iEz-0002wB-RC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 May 2009 18:01:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33568 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M8iEz-0002w4-K0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 May 2009 18:01:53 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:32842) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M8iEy-0001ra-VT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 May 2009 18:01:53 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n4PLnBmG015386; Mon, 25 May 2009 14:49:14 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n4PLUQAn012332; Mon, 25 May 2009 14:30:26 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 21:30:26 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3370 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3370-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B3370.124328699611898 (code B ref 3370); Mon, 25 May 2009 21:30:26 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3370) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 May 2009 21:29:56 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from rgminet14.oracle.com (rcsinet14.oracle.com [148.87.113.126]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n4PLTqmK011874 for <3370@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 25 May 2009 14:29:53 -0700 Original-Received: from rgminet12.oracle.com (rcsinet12.oracle.com [148.87.113.124]) by rgminet14.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n4PHguxL005175 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <3370@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 25 May 2009 17:42:58 GMT Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rgminet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n4PHfhfo019188 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 25 May 2009 17:41:47 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt002.oracle.com (abhmt002.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n4PHgb4O032098; Mon, 25 May 2009 17:42:38 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/98.210.250.59) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 25 May 2009 10:41:50 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87fxet9usz.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> Thread-Index: AcndPLpKrRv0sxsZRg6dSpaiPu7pZAAH3Y3Q X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: abhmt002.oracle.com [141.146.116.11] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A010207.4A1AD85F.0173:SCFSTAT5015188,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 18:01:58 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:28150 Archived-At: > > Why would everything else be equal? What's wrong with > > considering what Emacs has always done, and perhaps even > > thinking about breaking existing code (such as what I > > reported)? Everything else is not equal. > > Obviously. But if changing the default provides significantly better > behavior, there is case for doing it anyway. My point is that this > default is indeed better. Are you aware that you provide no reasons for your assertion that it "is indeed better"? Better how? Why? For whom? In what contexts? > >> I think `indent' is a better comment style. For instance, all the > >> Emacs sources use that style. > > > > If you are referring to ;; always being indented instead of > > starting a line (which is not what I reported about), then no, > > there are plenty of source code lines that start with ;; - > > in file headers, for instance. > > The overwhelming majority of commented lines are indented, including > file headers, which are indented to top-level (column 0). Indented to column 0? Are you just trying to win an argument? Sure, then everything in the universe is indented. If you count no-op indentation as indentation, then the third policeman going up the middle elevator is indented. So far, you have provided zero content for this thread, AFAICT. And we still have no definition of "comment style" or `comment-style'...