From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "積丹尼 Dan Jacobson" <jidanni@jidanni.org>, 36525@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#36525: M-x default when cursor on top of a M-x command in INFO
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 15:55:10 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <59855a35-cdc2-4c58-bcb2-791c62188374@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ftnj5s5s.2.fsf@jidanni.org>
> 2. Put the cursor on top of
> ‘M-x list-coding-systems’
> 3. Hit M-x
>
> Wouldn't it be great if we saw that it was now
> the default in the minibuffer?
>
> That way we could just hit RET to run it.
>
> Currently C-h C-f knows what the cursor is on,
> but not M-x (ESC x).
A better way to handle this is to have a key
(Icicles uses `M-.') that pulls text from the
buffer into the minibuffer, appending it to
whatever input text might already be there.
This is much more general than just pulling
in a command name from an Info buffer.
But it also means that users should be given
some way to control over _which_ text from the
buffer should be inserted into the minibuffer.
There are several reasonable possibilities.
As food for thought, Icicles handles this as
described here:
https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Icicles_-_Inserting_Text_from_Cursor
Summary:
Repeated `M-.' can have two different behaviors.
You can choose (by an option) which one to use.
1. Repeating `M-.' cycles through alternative
bits of text from the buffer. Each time you
hit `M-.' consecutively it inserts a different
string of text (replacing the previously
inserted one).
You can configure (user option) which kinds
of text to grab. By default the kinds are:
. `non-nil-symbol-name-nearest-point'
. `word-nearest-point'
. `list-nearest-point-as-string'
. Same (nearest list), but 2 levels up.
. Same (nearest list), but 3 levels up.
. `ffap-guesser' (but first deactivate a
large active region)
. `thing-at-point-url-at-point'
2. Repeating `M-.' grabs another thing of the
chosen kind. By default it is the next
word (using `forward-word').
IOW, you can either (1) keep using `M-.' to
insert _additional_ text things of a kind you
choose with an option setting or (2) use `M-.'
to cycle to get one thing of a kind that you
choose on the fly.
[Note that for your example, either (1) or (2)
does what you request: `list-coding-system'
is added to the minibuffer. `forward-word'
and `non-nil-symbol-name-nearest-point' both
grab that text.]
Whether vanilla Emacs would allow flexibility
to this degree is not so important as at
least having Emacs have a key that grabs
_something_ from the buffer text and appends
it to minibuffer input. Choice #2 above is
pretty simple to realize - give users an
option to specify which kind of text thing
they want to insert.
Alternatively, Emacs itself could provide
some context-sensitive DWIM to determine the
kind of text thing to grab. (As one user,
I prefer to control that choice myself, but
I'm sure that some others would be OK with
Emacs choosing.)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-07-06 15:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-07-06 11:17 bug#36525: M-x default when cursor on top of a M-x command in INFO 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2019-07-06 15:55 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2019-07-07 0:25 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2019-07-07 22:43 ` Juri Linkov
2019-07-08 0:27 ` Drew Adams
2019-07-08 20:58 ` Juri Linkov
2019-07-08 21:37 ` Drew Adams
2019-07-09 20:09 ` Juri Linkov
2019-07-09 21:07 ` Drew Adams
2019-07-07 13:55 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-09 8:52 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2019-07-09 10:55 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-07-09 11:10 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2019-07-09 12:24 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-07-09 12:24 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-15 8:43 ` Sebastian Urban
2019-07-09 12:24 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-10-14 20:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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