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From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net
Cc: 25511@debbugs.gnu.org, Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>
Subject: bug#25511: 26.0.50; modify-frame-parameters modifies undesignated parameter?
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 08:38:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <59364DE2.2010501@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o9u2x9ww.fsf@users.sourceforge.net>

 >>> Is there something more to do with this bug?
 >>
 >> Is there something more to do with bug#25521?
 >
 > Just the question of whether we should add back some delay after frame
 > creation, the original problem there is easily fixed by changing the
 > user code.  I gather from your question that it's the same for this bug?

Yes.  Problems in this area have existed for a long time.  Practically
all of them result from code using ‘make-frame’ followed by code that
immediately tries to read or modify properties of the frame to create.
For example, Bug#25511 has

(let ((frame (make-frame)))
   (modify-frame-parameters frame ...

while Bug#25521 has

   (make-frame '((name . "foo")
                 ...
   (select-frame-by-name "foo")

and, for example, Bug#25943 has

   (let  ((simple-frame   (make-frame  `((name       . "Simple Frame")
	 ...
       (unwind-protect
           (while  (progn
                     (set-frame-size  simple-frame ...

IIRC there were more similar reports.  BTW Bug#25943 was reported for an
Emacs 25.1 GTK build hence before you removed the delay to fix Bug#24091.

We could introduce some customizable delay and, whenever a bug in this
area is reported, tell people to increase that delay.  If the bug does
not disappear after the delay has gotten pretty large, we have a more
nasty problem.  Otherwise, we have perfidiously shifted responsibility
to the user.

martin






  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-06  6:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-23  7:28 bug#25511: 26.0.50; modify-frame-parameters modifies undesignated parameter? Katsumi Yamaoka
2017-01-23  8:03 ` martin rudalics
2017-01-23  9:01   ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2017-01-23 10:28     ` martin rudalics
2017-01-23 22:54       ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2017-01-24  0:45         ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2017-01-24  7:46           ` martin rudalics
2017-01-24  9:18             ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2017-01-24  9:37               ` martin rudalics
2017-06-05 12:57                 ` npostavs
2017-06-05 13:36                   ` martin rudalics
2017-06-06  0:00                     ` npostavs
2017-06-06  6:38                       ` martin rudalics [this message]
2017-01-24  7:46         ` martin rudalics
2017-01-23 17:27   ` Noam Postavsky
2017-01-23 18:01     ` martin rudalics

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