From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tobias Bading Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11588: 24.0.97; Left mouse click setting the mark every time?!?? Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 20:52:15 +0200 Message-ID: <582D26E2-752F-44BC-87C3-21083E12AA89@web.de> References: <4FC62772.3050402@web.de> <871um1yctg.fsf@gnu.org><79466EF2-DE7B-4D7F-AC82-05455D227025@web.de> <87sjeh7ho7.fsf@gnu.org> <63D55D7A07BF4B0CBD43879E28FA412E@us.oracle.com> <3A878154-65C5-439C-8492-680B5F64C654@web.de> <3DBDB4C0CB47400DABC8A616DA709826@us.oracle.com> <09E008A7AE464D6684168E06E124A762@us.oracle.com> <02129C61-D438-4F4C-A6F2-0A777840DAB6@web.de> <3DACE48F602F4D59BD15600DA09DD8CA@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1338404020 15264 80.91.229.3 (30 May 2012 18:53:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 18:53:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Chong Yidong' , 11588@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 30 20:53:38 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SZo1a-0005RM-BZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 May 2012 20:53:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58841 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SZo1a-0004s3-65 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 May 2012 14:53:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35724) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SZo1X-0004rr-E2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 May 2012 14:53:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SZo1V-0005cs-OM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 May 2012 14:53:34 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41201) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SZo1V-0005cf-L3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 May 2012 14:53:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SZo2v-0001YB-Oc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 May 2012 14:55:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Tobias Bading Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 18:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11588 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11588-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11588.13384040545907 (code B ref 11588); Wed, 30 May 2012 18:55:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11588) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 May 2012 18:54:14 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50747 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SZo29-0001XD-Mh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 May 2012 14:54:13 -0400 Original-Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de ([217.72.192.234]:34560) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SZo1o-0001WS-WE for 11588@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 May 2012 14:54:11 -0400 Original-Received: from moweb001.kundenserver.de (moweb001.kundenserver.de [172.19.20.114]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32371B5539FF for <11588@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 30 May 2012 20:52:16 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [192.168.2.26] ([79.197.222.126]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb001) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0M4Zlk-1Roa8y0X1Q-00yiTb; Wed, 30 May 2012 20:52:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: <3DACE48F602F4D59BD15600DA09DD8CA@us.oracle.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:xJuqNhNpQIWcDRrm9WfvsDCpDXt2j4N6JAt1GcMLuwf FimaWusTW1olA0ekqKpSHuEONDDW88noS+SKPWg2aGNr0zo3Z3 yNRswOpkaHTsHSSvDst5bsi4tU+1dYr784vQGCOLZC4u29B+P3 FK10gsIjSl08yzhvBjhvAEOxe6+30OUMUaXNrdnv27HxcYgu5Y XnRQYE/Ga974olUIvPqDA== X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:60547 Archived-At: > The window mgr doesn't know what Emacs defines as a drag, and it has = no notion > of setting point. Emacs should define the behavior for itself. The = Emacs mouse > is a bit special all 'round - much of how it behaves is particular to = Emacs. Sure, but from a user's point of view, shouldn't all applications = running under the same window system have the same understanding of a = "drag gesture"? I just took a peek into the Apple Cocoa docs, and Apple = defines a mouseDragged event. So on Mac OS, it seems that it is not the = application's job to determine whether a click starts a drag or is just = a click, the window system does that job for the application. Makes = sense to me. However, my experience with Mac OS GUI programming is = rather limited and the last time I wrote X11 code is ages ago, so there = are probably lots of people in here who are better qualified than me to = figure out the best way to deal with this problem.