From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22564: Fundamental mode isn't fundamental enough. Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 07:36:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <581e4daf-088b-468c-bb4d-500284df3d8f@default> References: <<20160205125559.GC7727@acm.fritz.box>> <<834mdnusem.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1454686644 16105 80.91.229.3 (5 Feb 2016 15:37:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 15:37:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 22564@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 05 16:37:10 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aRiRZ-0005ru-QN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 16:37:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48943 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRiRZ-0003sM-9q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 10:37:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55000) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRiRV-0003sF-Lr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 10:37:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRiRS-0004IG-F0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 10:37:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:54203) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRiRS-0004I4-Am for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 10:37:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aRiRS-0006lx-6J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 10:37:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 15:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22564 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 22564-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22564.145468658025987 (code B ref 22564); Fri, 05 Feb 2016 15:37:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22564) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Feb 2016 15:36:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34559 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aRiQm-0006l4-88 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 10:36:20 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:22990) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aRiQk-0006kr-O4 for 22564@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 10:36:19 -0500 Original-Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u15FaCCH023946 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 5 Feb 2016 15:36:12 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u15FaAZf029293 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 5 Feb 2016 15:36:11 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0015.oracle.com (abhmp0015.oracle.com [141.146.116.21]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u15FaAoH020185; Fri, 5 Feb 2016 15:36:10 GMT In-Reply-To: <<834mdnusem.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:112496 Archived-At: > > I've just tried to paste some text into a fundamental mode buffer, usin= g > > GNU/Linux's GPM mouse utility. It gets fouled up by some facility that > > decides I want some automatic indentation, despite being in fundamental > > mode. As far as I understand, GPM does pasting by effectively typing a > > character at a time. >=20 > You want to turn off electric-indent-mode, I think. >=20 > > This is surely a bug. >=20 > No, it's a deliberate feature, AFAIU. In Fundamental mode? Electric anything in Fundamental mode? Surely someone was not smoking the right stuff at the time that was decided.