From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24090: 25.1; toggle-frame-fullscreen breaks UI features in Gnome Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 14:30:37 +0200 Message-ID: <579C9DED.40006@gmx.at> References: <87d1lyluey.fsf@moondust.awandering> <579B039C.6080007@gmx.at> <87vazoqyid.fsf@moondust.awandering> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1469886895 4292 80.91.229.8 (30 Jul 2016 13:54:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 13:54:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 24090-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: "N. 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With > this piece of information things make sense. Sorry - this is X11 parlance. I should have mentioned z-order. > [Well, I'm not sure that they make sense from a UI point of view, but > then not much in Gnome 3 does. However it seems that the behaviour is > consistent with the design.] Fullscreen is often used by gamers. They could possibly get distracted by bars or icons popping up after they moved the mouse to certain parts of their screen. > So it seems that this is simply user error (or a user misunderstanding). > In using fullscreen mode, I used a feature that was not appropriate for > my use case. (I simply need a feature that hides the title bar.) IIUC you usually cannot remove/add the title bar for an existing frame on X. > So > please tag this `notabug' and close it. I'm just closing it. > [Off I go to try playing with my configuration to so see if I can make > my frames slightly taller than my display so that the title bar is above > the top edge of my monitor.] I'm afraid your efforts will be wasted. Doing such a thing programmatically usually fails just as often as it works. martin