From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#25181: 25.1.90; move-beginning-of-line doesn't move point Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:55:10 +0100 Message-ID: <5748b446-549d-98ea-7e26-d8a8870ad30f@easy-emacs.de> References: <83d1gxccmg.fsf@gnu.org> <83mvfzbyr0.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1481651178 14011 195.159.176.226 (13 Dec 2016 17:46:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 17:46:18 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.4.0 Cc: 25181@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 13 18:46:14 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cGr9Y-0002Vm-FB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:45:49 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83mvfzbyr0.fsf@gnu.org> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:1fSoR7DwaWjyk1bRne6b7xrrKKhQFOtiP1fDqef76wwfWx1gb36 EV2y5Z6/07THoQoIS1XkXiXZRFgB42e7HDqVXCvp5BjmU2EGcM3178VyKPaE4g0tEFAp1mi pSo4Mquhn3tP0tvF+NgScAKVSkI53T5SKEqA3WC2YpgLq7dL7wrA5IydsgVBcMWFuf3/8JN 0NvGlwYmtU9sZG/0kLkvA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:8L67GIJgpLQ=:fDrf0fgYkaJw1dt3Kp3aQJ ouQvEBgnSYpWrEdOyGyK5X+e8mntZkdeZ7gw2mNxMr+0KUSNToyNt7cWctVksFq809JG+p8NU Kxwiz5RwarDEG0yPNfiHG7oZkA6zv6J4GucG7RhFuGbBFvzxHQ1t7M2zz6mF9DEGSMeAX8Qz1 R6Y1N1QpGvn19nUmNBNzuxbZpsYeCnu+LiAgayr6wigKpPHMpqyAH10HP2VqL4UZMjuJHyBxl zNNrFmj14A9TkrBQ1tbmKRK2sMXBsZ3BuqyFc/k6TPCgFbqPi8e7CwpHYZeTKiBcbRHn+Dvo6 2uezwR7lGKI0TlnroB6UtSQi91cxdTzIkBSs/8WSZuaWxZzFvwPVj+EJM/4o9WFg7vGzSaGnJ +55VIwfiGFNHyRqyrMl2e+SvAZvr3dpe8rZvQtCt2eieWSptQ1CdvfJfJbbxhf/u7TpBhwGfP T/RUu6bS/3SQlNGxPT64Jgllm8DlbUwzTbKSxEbBh1HPzobnjX/o5sv3OpFgUibu+7wqaOymW MpOubB5FL9nZcbNJ2JjJM2tK/vayeDgNtIyaRCLGHxxnthwDdURC0qhNZV9OeV0q4fd5JDS6x gvTNVdHSIRbixga4CZvwzWhR9Zr0ekSXZ93gWGdvBnqJcreMpdg8OjfIRgwOg51bzFbhtRcNL ggl+dytdaWMhQqZeD0z+X/9wHEhq/9AE8vd1BW0Yuw1xZj7Y3lhLm71m4KWa57TAzoQMrimOq ikWRKvROXjtHt0t5 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:126992 Archived-At: On 13.12.2016 17:05, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >> Hmm, is this reasonable? BOL is a very basic concept. Don't think it >> should be permitted to be interfered with fields. > The idea is that a Lisp program would use fields only when the > produced effect is what the user would expect. You see this every day > in action when you type "C-x C-f" and then C-a: point stops at the > beginning of the default directory, without entering the "Find file:" > prompt. Moving point to BOL in this case would be a nuisance. (You > can still get to the beginning of line by other means, like C-b.) > > That's what fields are all about. If you don't want this effect, > don't use fields; they are opt-in. Felt rather having been ad-opted ;) Still think there is a bug - might be a seldom one.