From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23144: shrinking windows with gtk 3.20 Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 09:48:50 +0200 Message-ID: <56FE27E2.2030307@gmx.at> References: <56FA9CBD.1020404@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1459497073 19804 80.91.229.3 (1 Apr 2016 07:51:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 07:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23144@debbugs.gnu.org, Matthias Clasen To: John Wiegley Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 01 09:51:03 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1altr9-0005Um-HJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 09:50:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36448 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1altr9-0002Tx-0X for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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it depends on the scope of the change and the > number of users it affects. 25.1 _will_ ship with some bugs, we can't avoid > that; so at this point we're trying as much as possible only to improve the > stability of our pretests. It's not about the severity of the bug; it's merely about how to react. I think we have two possibilites to deal with this issue: Ignore it or implement a fix. If we ignore it, we might run into difficulties later when gtk developers eventually decide to apply the change in question or we find a case where our code does not DTRT anyway. As Eli already mentioned, after Jan's departure nobody here is in grade to maintain the gtk interface reliably. If we try to fix it, we could possibly rely on Matthias to give us clues on how to proceed and what to do if the fix causes problems. If the fix goes into master, there are chances that any such problems will pass by unnoticed for some time since currently most people here seem to use the release version. martin