From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21644: 24.4; completing-read acts differently on functional collection Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 20:03:31 +0300 Message-ID: <561FDC63.6010609@yandex.ru> References: <5615A2EA.4@thompsonclan.org> <87vbahmzwd.fsf@gmail.com> <561C5D0B.9070303@yandex.ru> <561C5FB0.6030105@thompsonclan.org> <561C6C12.20803@yandex.ru> <561D54AF.7090701@thompsonclan.org> <561F35AD.8000803@yandex.ru> <561FC52F.1010606@yandex.ru> <4fe19dae-4269-401b-82bd-10f9d368a921@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444928764 31585 80.91.229.3 (15 Oct 2015 17:06:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 21644@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams , "Ryan C. Thompson" , Oleh Krehel Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 15 19:05:52 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmlyP-0000H9-3M for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:05:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48715 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmlyO-0000zA-4i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:05:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52996) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zmlwk-0000dd-J0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:04:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zmlwg-0006o8-CB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:04:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:33617) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zmlwg-0006nv-8S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:04:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zmlwf-0004Yz-Tk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:04:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Dmitry Gutov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21644 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21644-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21644.144492862017509 (code B ref 21644); Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:04:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21644) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Oct 2015 17:03:40 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52558 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmlwJ-0004YJ-Jq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:03:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com ([209.85.217.172]:33015) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmlwG-0004Y7-Uk for 21644@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:03:37 -0400 Original-Received: by lbbpp2 with SMTP id pp2so48088775lbb.0 for <21644@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:03:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UXGQwYcZfSO6uWbOHqAh20+o3nr/ORwzLmJ5MTLSmQs=; b=zetgR7ebNMnKPx6F6UWYxlHqOlMTyDk64OpTR5SPIhV3fN5sfFLLO1RtCK/Xj7z2BF P6yvVIOIwcAbl3zgL2XuKGW0tlBokMcS5QYeTuQy4z5dTt91g7MlEGE6YrFpHdcDlY4G KsrSD2UnMXjnmPmpnv2Xw+pnf1Qaw/mwWYhtk23jml3vZuKFGsMuT4sSi4FwKSso++aO MXymIG1WS4oH24ZEub2puyH2wIKTlxgPVyMLJFmb5yyW6a5X8W64cmnsM5BE6Swfc/t7 80m6eWJ938L06rDf/3YsnDzvuTeQ69SQbPjNEUJNO8haxkylN2zmpJr37irHIZ6k5wcW Mckg== X-Received: by 10.194.6.66 with SMTP id y2mr12797635wjy.82.1444928616052; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([185.105.175.24]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id z4sm13051106wjz.29.2015.10.15.10.03.33 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:03:34 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/41.0 In-Reply-To: <4fe19dae-4269-401b-82bd-10f9d368a921@default> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:107651 Archived-At: On 10/15/2015 07:47 PM, Drew Adams wrote: > Please reread what I wrote. I said that `completing-read' is > not mentioned in node `Basic Completion'. And it is not. I see, thanks. But if you want me to read your writings in whole, you should really try to write more concisely. >> Basic Completion references Programmed Completion, twice. > > So what? If if they want to find out about function-value COLLECTION, they'll go there. On the other hand, we say that the node in question has information about completion, collection and predicate. That includes the case when the collection is not a function. > If the bug is that a user will not know the details for a > function-valued COLLECTION argument to `completing-read' then the > right place to send a reader for __that information__ is node > `Programmed Completion'. _This_ bug was about that. That doesn't mean we should fix it by introducing another bug. > And I said, regarding general info about COLLECTION: > > It doesn't hurt to send them to both nodes or to only > their parent, `Completion'. I think that asking the user to read the whole Completion section is too much. Basic Completion already contains the necessary information, or links to it. If the user wants the overview, they can navigate to the parent node just as easily.