bug#21415: 25.0.50; Emacs Trunk -- pixelwise width/height for x-create-frame

[martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>]

 > Zooming and fullscreen are two different concepts. Zooming is a generic
 > system, and it's up to the application to decide what to do. When
 > initialized using the user interface, Emacs steps through full-height,
 > maximized, and original size. When the frame `fullscreen' property is
 > updated, the correct state is set immediately. OS X is simply informed of
 > the end size and placement and resized the frame using a resizing animation.

But is the fact that OS X has responded to our zooming request reflected
in that "button" and if so in which way?

 > FullScreen is a totally different animal with a special sideways animation,
 > gives the application exclusive use of the screen, and blanks out other
 > monitors.

What is the size of such a "FullScreen" screen in relation to the size
of your screen?

 > Today, I did try a little experiment by
 > modifying `windowWillUseStandardFrame:' to return the full screen size.
 > Unfortunately, using this method it doesn't seem possible to make the frame
 > use the entire screen -- it appears as though the system restrict the
 > requested frame size to what it considers the visible area.
 >
 > The four pixels, by the way, is related to the position of the "Dock" -- if
 > it is placed on the side of the screen, OS X won't use the four leftmost
 > pixels. Also, if the Dock is not in auto-hide mode, OS X will restrict zoom
 > so that the dock isn't covered at all (i.e. some 20 or 30 pixels).

This makes sense, more or less.

 > It would be relatively easy to modify the code so that setting a frame
 > parameter would set the frame size without using the zoom system. However,
 > it would make maximizing the frame using the user interface different from
 > `toggle-frame-maximized', which might be undesirable.

Agreed.

 > On the other hand, I
 > compared with another application (LightRoom). When it is maximized using
 > the user interface, it's frame doesn't cover the entire screen (the same
 > four pixels as in Emacs). To cover the entire screen, another command must
 > be issued which cycles through maximized, maximized with hidden menu bar,
 > and normal.

I'm afraid that I don't yet understand that "cycling".  Do you mean that
pushing that button (which I presume is the "user interface") repeatedly
cycles through these three states?  In that case there's still the
question whether ‘toggle-frame-maximized’ should hide the menu bar.

BTW, you above say "full-height" and "maximized" and here you talk about
"maximized" and "maximized with hidden menu bar".  Which of these
correlate?

martin