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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Stefan Monnier'" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	"'Andy Moreton'" <andrewjmoreton@gmail.com>
Cc: 12621@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#12621: Emacs 24.1 crashing on Windows 7
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:26:11 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <560B7AE533FA4C0B968812EA968AAA09@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvtxrl7iyx.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

> >> Thanks for reporting the bug,

Should have stopped there, full stop.  Thank you, Andy.

> >> but please don't refer to Windows as a "win".
>
> > This kind if puerile comment is decidedly unhelpful.
> 
> It's very far from puerile, it is on the contrary based on an
> understanding of the power of choosing your words.

Power of choosing your words, indeed.  Please do not assume that you understand
this better than Andy or anyone else, just because you religiously ban "win32"
from your vocabulary.

Mouthing "win32" is hardly "referring to [MS] Windows as a win."  If Andy had in
fact referred to MS Windows as "a win" then you might have an argument.  He did
not, and you do not.

This "win32" thing is now nothing more than counting angels on pinheads.  It
makes as much sense as claiming that using the character `w' in an abbreviation
is tantamount to pledging allegiance to Bill Gates.  Or the devil.  Burn the
witch!  Burn the `w' books!

Words chosen well have power.  Chosen unwisely they can backfire.  Choose
wisely.

That, I think, was precisely Andy's point.  It's mine, at least.  The anti-"win"
crusade is not effective, almost by design.  And you should not, by now at
least, be surprised at that.

Choose wisely, especially if you are offering guidelines for political action
and not just a catechism.

Just one opinion.






  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-16 22:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-11  3:32 bug#12621: Win32 (Ver:24.2); Crashes when files from shared folders are accessed Arvind Devarajan
2012-10-11  8:38 ` bug#12621: Acknowledgement (Win32 (Ver:24.2); Crashes when files from shared folders are accessed) Arvind Devarajan
2012-10-11 17:11   ` bug#12621: Win32 (Ver:24.2); Crashes when files from shared folders are accessed Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-16 13:39 ` Arvind Devarajan
2012-10-16 17:32   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-22 10:19 ` Arvind Devarajan
2012-10-22 17:14   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-23 12:16 ` Arvind Devarajan
2012-10-23 16:24   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-13 10:22 ` bug#12621: Emacs 24.1 crashing on Win7 Arunas Ruksnaitis
2012-12-13 18:04   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-13 18:30     ` Arunas Ruksnaitis
2012-12-13 19:05       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-13 19:13         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-13 21:09           ` Arūnas Rukšnaitis
2012-12-14  9:16             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-14 14:07               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-19 18:53               ` Glenn Morris
2013-02-19 21:00                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-13 18:41     ` Arunas Ruksnaitis
2012-12-13 19:08       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-14 15:22       ` bug#12621: Emacs 24.1 crashing on Lose7 Richard Stallman
2012-12-14 18:31         ` Arunas Ruksnaitis
2012-12-15  0:36         ` bug#12621: Emacs 24.1 crashing on Windows 7 Andy Moreton
2012-12-15  8:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-15 19:46             ` Richard Stallman
2012-12-15 20:03               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-15 20:41                 ` Drew Adams
2012-12-16 21:23                 ` Richard Stallman
2012-12-15 20:45               ` Daniel Colascione
2012-12-16 21:23                 ` Richard Stallman
2012-12-17  2:03                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2012-12-17  2:19                     ` Daniel Colascione
2012-12-17  2:30                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2012-12-17 23:46                       ` Richard Stallman
2012-12-16 22:05           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-16 22:26             ` Drew Adams [this message]
2012-12-16 22:36               ` Drew Adams
2012-12-16 23:04               ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-12-17  0:04               ` Stephen Berman
2012-12-17  0:17                 ` Bastien
2012-12-17  1:38                   ` Drew Adams
2012-12-17  1:42                     ` Drew Adams
2012-12-17 23:46                     ` Richard Stallman
2012-12-18  9:35                       ` Bastien
2012-12-18 18:30                         ` Richard Stallman
2012-12-18 18:48                           ` Bastien
2012-12-17  0:43                 ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.15500.1355705095.855.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-12-17  1:01                   ` Burton Samograd
2012-12-17  2:11                 ` Daniel Colascione
2012-12-17 23:46                 ` Richard Stallman
2012-12-17  1:55             ` Dmitry Gutov

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