From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20728: 25.0.50; grep and grep-find templates should have a place holder for the --color argument Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 11:05:52 +0300 Message-ID: <558FAAE0.6020805@yandex.ru> References: <86bngws6il.fsf@yandex.ru> <83zj4fpjof.fsf@gnu.org> <557082F7.8020400@yandex.ru> <83wpzjpf6o.fsf@gnu.org> <55708EEA.6020400@yandex.ru> <83twunp9bf.fsf@gnu.org> <5570B30F.4090503@yandex.ru> <83oakuprpf.fsf@gnu.org> <55715DE3.6000405@yandex.ru> <83h9qmpm2s.fsf@gnu.org> <557166CE.4050906@yandex.ru> <83d21apkyg.fsf@gnu.org> <55717030.6010005@yandex.ru> <87a8wdhka7.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <5572C936.6070505@yandex.ru> <874mmkfq7q.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <5574C427.3070007@yandex.ru> <87fv608nl8.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <55787A1D.9080601@yandex.ru> <87wpzbaztk.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <55793756.9070505@yandex.ru> <87a8w53k8z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <558F1186.50303@yandex.ru> <834mls7dvr.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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Sun, 28 Jun 2015 01:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([82.102.93.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d3sm58152994wjs.21.2015.06.28.01.05.56 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 28 Jun 2015 01:05:56 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0 In-Reply-To: <834mls7dvr.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:104428 Archived-At: On 06/28/2015 05:42 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Isn't it the other way around: Windows wants 'always' (except when it > doesn't, see below), while others want 'auto'? When will `always' not work for the others? > As to when you won't want 'always': it's when Grep is invoked as part > pf a pipeline, where it's not the last part, or when the Lisp program > that invokes it wants to interpret the results, as opposed to showing > them to the user. I'd want `nil' in that case, right? And I'd have to specify it explicitly anyway, if I want compatibility with Windows. So, why do we use `auto'?