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X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:104343 Archived-At: Am 25.06.2015 um 17:53 schrieb Rasmus: > Hi, > > Sexp movement in python.el are very confusing to me. I know that logical > sexp movements outside lisp are subjective, Not more as anything else editor-related. Languages are composed by elements, which a syntax may describe. Even if an editor must not be the slave of a syntax, it should be aware of. > and I know that the behavior > isn't wrong. It behaves arbitrary WRT Python syntax, that's wrong. > I understand why it does what it does. The behavior is just > confusing when I use it an practice. > > Example, starting from emacs -q: > > Open test.py > > Insert something like this, ignoring point denoted by "{v,^} {1,...,5}". > > 4 5 6 > v v v > def foo(x): > """return x as one""" > > x = 1; > > return(x) > ^ ^ ^ > 2 3 1 > > Consider points 1,...,5. At point 2 forward-sexp will go to point 1, at > point 3 backward-sexp will go to point 2. At point 1, sexp-backward will > go to 4 rather than point 2 (as I would expect). Likewise, at point 4, > forward sexp goes to point 1 rather than 5. At point five, everything is > as I would expect, and {forward,backward}-sexp goes to 6 and 4. > > A switch to prefer a closer opening/closing of the "sexp" at point would > be great. > > Thanks, > Rasmus > [ ... ] Python is composed by expressions. If inside an expression C-M-f should to to its end. From end to next end same level if existing - or level up, or next top-level-form, or nil at EOB Backward and forward needs to be consistent.