Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Up till now, all messages output have been ASCII (with the exception of user > supplied characters and in some other rare instances such as outputting > `sentence-end'). No, even the current stable version of Emacs (24.4) regularly outputs curved quotes on typical displays. I just now ran emacs -Q, typed "C-h i m emacs RET", and saw curved quotes on the first screenful of the Emacs manual. So we're not making such a drastic change here; we're just evolving Emacs in the natural direction. > does the code test the output > display setup to decide what sort of quotes to output (best), or is it up > to some user option (middling) or is it hard coded (worst)? It tests the output display setup. >> This is not too much to ask of an Emacs developer. > > Of course not, but could it be too much to ask of an Emacs user? Emacs users in 8-bit environments shouldn't need to worry about this; they should just see straight quotes where the Emacs manual etc. uses curved ones. This thread is more about the special case of a developer who's using a Linux console that doesn't support the full Unicode gamut. > this warrants an extensive entry in NEWS. Makes sense, and the next iteration of this patch will add a NEWS entry. > I don't think that's the font for me. It has one-pixel thick spidery > characters, rather than the two-pixel thick ones the default fonts have. The font has a bold variant. I'll attach Lat15-TerminusBold16.psf.gz. There are other variants that are even bigger, if you like. > ... Its apostrophe is a vertical line rather than a top right to bottom left > sloping character, and I find its curly single quotes too indistinct If you just want to continue to use the same font, how about the attached font lat1-16.psfu.gz instead? It's taken from the current stable version of kbd ; see and extract the file kbd-2.0.2/data/consolefonts/lat1-16.psfu and then use gzip to get the compressed version. This handles curved single quotes and if it's the same lat1-16 font you're used to you should find it comfortable. Curved double quotes don't come up as often, but if you want them to be displayed using a graphical representation other than '"', you can do something like the following: (printf '0x0d3 U+201C\n0x0d9 U+201D\n'; psfgettable lat1-16.psfu) | psfaddtable lat1-16.psfu - lat1-16-double.psfu gzip -9n lat1-16-double.psfu and then use the font lat1-16-double.psfu.gz instead.