From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 20629@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#20629: 25.0.50; Regression: TAGS broken, can't find anything in C++ files.
Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 17:05:53 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55687241.5030200@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83fv6fx0nk.fsf@gnu.org>
On 05/29/2015 11:12 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>> But having just qualified tags is bad for accuracy, right?
>>
>> Maybe. Depends on things we would add to the Lisp code.
>
> Can you elaborate? Is there a way to get the same accuracy and
> completion without having both qualified and unqualified tags?
There'll have to be some compromise, but not necessarily in accuracy.
The present default behavior is accurate enough, and by that I mean the
user can navigate to a method call, press M-., and see all definitions
of the methods with that name, without extra junk.
What we don't have by default, is completion, and navigation to,
qualified method names. That's by itself, is a relatively advances
feature (the user needs to know to press C-u and then either press TAB
and look for qualified names, or type one out).
That can be mitigated by parsing out implicit tag names out of patterns,
however they also don't always contain qualified names (which was my
misunderstanding: they do in the toy example provided by Jan). So,
having qualified names in tag completion reliably is out of the
question, unless etags uses them in tag names.
And then we'd have to solve the question of how to get the unqualified
names in both completion and navigation (continued below (*)).
> Yes, but I think if we change etags to create duplicate tags, we
> should have this feature opt-out, unlike Exuberant, otherwise TAGS
> created by default will be deficient with xref. Do you agree?
I'd say no. First, there's value is simply being compatible.
Second, as the ctags man page warns, including both qualified and
unqualified names in separate entries, "could potentially more than
double the size of the tag file". Which increases the time it takes to
load one, and might (if we make more progress on Stefan's suggestion not
to pre-build tags completion table) also make completion slower, in
projects of certain size.
(*) However, I don't really understand this choice:
"""
The actual form of the qualified tag depends upon the language from
which the tag was derived (using a form that is most natural for how
qualified calls are specified in the language). For C++, it is in the
form "class::member"; for Eiffel and Java, it is in the form "class.member".
"""
If we posit that in each interesting language a qualified tag is of the
form CONTEXT-CHAR-NAME, standardizing on CHAR would allow us to extract
both qualified and unqualified tag names from a single entry, at a small
cost in readability for users where the language traditionally uses a
different separator than the one picked by etags.
For better uniqueness, I'd choose two of them: # before instance
methods, and . before class (or static) methods. This notation is fairly
popular and is used in Javadocs, as well as in different comment formats
Ruby uses.
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2015-05-22 5:57 bug#20629: 25.0.50; Regression: TAGS broken, can't find anything in C++ files Jan D.
2015-05-23 11:54 ` Jan Djärv
2015-05-23 12:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-23 12:15 ` Jan Djärv
2015-05-23 12:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-23 12:28 ` Jan Djärv
2015-05-23 12:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-23 13:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-23 13:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-23 14:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-23 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-25 15:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-25 21:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-26 2:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-26 10:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-26 15:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-26 19:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-26 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-26 21:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-28 11:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-28 12:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-26 23:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-27 14:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-27 15:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-27 15:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-27 15:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-27 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-27 23:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-28 2:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-28 10:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-28 14:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-28 15:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-28 16:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-29 0:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-29 6:48 ` Glenn Morris
2015-05-29 8:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-29 12:34 ` Francesco Potortì
2015-05-29 9:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-29 8:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-29 14:05 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2015-05-29 16:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-29 17:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-29 19:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-29 20:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-29 18:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-29 20:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-29 20:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-29 22:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-30 6:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-30 12:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-30 13:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-30 14:21 ` Francesco Potortì
2015-05-30 14:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-28 11:35 ` Francesco Potortì
2015-05-28 11:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-28 12:16 ` Francesco Potortì
2015-05-28 13:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-28 13:12 ` Francesco Potortì
2015-05-28 15:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-28 15:14 ` Francesco Potortì
2015-05-28 15:29 ` Francesco Potortì
2015-05-29 17:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-30 12:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-30 12:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-30 12:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-30 13:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-30 14:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-30 15:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-30 16:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-30 17:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-30 18:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-30 19:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-26 3:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-26 15:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-26 16:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-26 16:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 3:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-19 18:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-30 17:01 ` Francesco Potortì
2015-05-30 18:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-30 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-30 19:35 ` Francesco Potortì
2015-05-30 20:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-30 22:35 ` Francesco Potortì
2015-05-31 0:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-31 21:46 ` bug#20629: Fwd: bug#20703: 24.4; Stack overflow in regexp matcher Francesco Potortì
2015-05-31 22:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-31 22:40 ` Francesco Potortì
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