From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20552: 24.4; cc Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 12:13:58 +0200 Message-ID: <55547566.1040801@gmx.at> References: <87zj5aq3j8.fsf@nyu.edu> <5551C9A2.6050301@gmx.at> <87zj5aq8ol.fsf@nyu.edu> <5552FF1F.2010901@gmx.at> <87fv701u0r.fsf@nyu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1431598530 31565 80.91.229.3 (14 May 2015 10:15:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 10:15:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "20552@debbugs.gnu.org" <20552@debbugs.gnu.org> To: gottlieb@nyu.edu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 14 12:15:17 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YsqAd-0004Ij-VM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 12:15:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53593 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YsqAd-0002aq-Dy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 06:15:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43733) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YsqAZ-0002ac-Mp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 06:15:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YsqAT-0005jM-O4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 06:15:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:34483) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YsqAT-0005ih-LX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 06:15:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YsqAT-0003Fz-4u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 06:15:05 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 10:15:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20552 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20552-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20552.143159845612417 (code B ref 20552); Thu, 14 May 2015 10:15:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20552) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 May 2015 10:14:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44455 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ysq9f-0003ED-LM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 06:14:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:55030) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ysq9e-0003Dw-6V for 20552@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 06:14:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [178.190.18.121] ([178.190.18.121]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LcBPV-1Za6uo28ZR-00jbaE; Thu, 14 May 2015 12:14:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87fv701u0r.fsf@nyu.edu> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:8reoAcOSk11OeoJ0TB/lwpek60AWUJDh6vdPb/k6oRztyXCZepi 21b3RIoc2UdtE7dnBQAUoaHzge0HtHXb/xN4/qRpbKRyXZ/piFQn/nrf100IbHQbcZdjyTR BrQcHi47O0abw0vg3z/cw7AOijQkuidk4e3hNd0F/ILswovow5R8mCxz4nPJhfLvYh7NCtQ QvAPwz/9er57F7DwHtpzw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:102768 Archived-At: > As you wrote it there is no difference. (left . 0) remains > about 1/8 inch right of flush left (even if executed twice). BUT > > (modify-frame-parameters nil '((user-position . t) (width . 176) > (left . -1300)) > > does become flush left on an initial emacs -Q whereas without the > user-position (which I will now read about) it required two executions > to become flush left. Recall, previously the first execution left the frame > several inches right of flush left but a second execution made it flush > left. Still weird. What happens with (modify-frame-parameters nil '((user-position . t) (width . 176) (left . 1))) Also, you could try playing with the `(+ POS)' and `(- POS)' position specifications (see section 28.3.3.2 Position Parameters of the Elisp manual). martin