From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20322: 25.0.50; indent-tabs-mode should default to nil Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 18:49:41 +0300 Message-ID: <5537C315.6040503@yandex.ru> References: <861tjn3069.fsf@yandex.ru> <552D20B6.8030005@yandex.ru> <83mw2abul3.fsf@gnu.org> <552D34BC.4090806@yandex.ru> <83h9sibt0q.fsf@gnu.org> <552D7796.2090109@yandex.ru> <552D9204.3000604@yandex.ru> <552DC816.3030002@yandex.ru> <553513B4.6040509@yandex.ru> <55357918.7030808@yandex.ru> <5536A423.7020808@yandex.ru> <83r3rd461u.fsf@gnu.org> <5537B804.7090508@yandex.ru> <83oamg2nv2.fsf@gnu.org> <5537BCDA.2040206@yandex.ru> <83lhhk2ned.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1429717829 1310 80.91.229.3 (22 Apr 2015 15:50:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 15:50:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20322@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 22 17:50:17 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ykwum-0006C5-Fm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Wed, 22 Apr 2015 08:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([82.102.93.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id uo6sm7873414wjc.49.2015.04.22.08.49.43 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Apr 2015 08:49:44 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/36.0 In-Reply-To: <83lhhk2ned.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:101878 Archived-At: On 04/22/2015 06:28 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I thought it was obvious: Changing the whitespace usage is not a > simple job, and no one will normally do that. What I'm suggesting is that such a project would add an entry to dir-locals, to solidify its current conventions. They've probably done it already: > So having different > defaults will silently and subtly cause a change in project-wide > conventions, something that I think is undesirable. Sneaky changes are not only caused by changed defaults. Some members of the team might have different tabs-indent-mode values set up in their configs. The only way to guard against that is to do the above anyway. > In short, these two languages are just too similar and inter-related > to justify using the same defaults in this regard. Well, like mentioned before, exceptions add complexity. So it's not like I really disagree.