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Wed, 11 Nov 2020 19:42:33 +0000 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (userp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 0ABJgQnF101982; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 19:42:32 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 34rnyk8pu9-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 11 Nov 2020 19:42:32 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0018.oracle.com (abhmp0018.oracle.com [141.146.116.24]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 0ABJf5kq005268; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 19:41:05 GMT In-Reply-To: <87a6voz57f.fsf@mail.linkov.net> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5071.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9802 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 adultscore=0 spamscore=0 bulkscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 mlxscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 suspectscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2011110114 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9802 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 phishscore=0 priorityscore=1501 mlxscore=0 suspectscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 lowpriorityscore=0 spamscore=0 malwarescore=0 adultscore=0 clxscore=1015 bulkscore=0 impostorscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2011110114 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:193134 Archived-At: > >> No other effect, cursor-in-echo-area was necessary when > >> 'read-char-choice' relied on 'read-key'. > > > > Seriously? You've not only introduced a new function, > > `read-char-from-minibuffer', AND used it here and there > > (everywhere?) in place of `read-char` and `read-key`, > > but you've ALSO changed the behavior of `read-char-choice`, > > so it too no longer reads a char in the longstanding, > > useful way, which we can count to NOT use the minibuffer? >=20 > This is a false accusation. I have NOT changed the behavior of > `read-char-choice`, It was actually a question, not an accusation, but yes, the word order wasn't interrogative, unfortunately. Instead of "You're going to the store?", I should have asked it as "Are you going to the store?" Apologies, if you did not, in fact, change `read-char-choice'. That answers the question in a way that reassures me. My question was in response to your message where (I thought) you described some changes ("clean-up") to `read-char-choice', including (I thought) that it no longer uses `read-key', and you then said: "what remains in 'read-char-choice' after this clean-up, is just a call to 'read-char-from-minibuffer'..." If `read-char-choice' will not, in fact, be changed to use `read-char-from-minibuffer' then that will be good, IMO. I hope such a change does not occur; let me put it that way. Again, apologies if I misunderstood, and for any heard false accusations. As you know, I'm not happy about uses of `read-char' etc. having been replaced by `read-char-from-minibuffer'. I also wouldn't be happy about wholesale replacement of uses of `read-char-choice' by `read-char-from-minibuffer'. Maybe it makes sense to replace some such occurrences, but it would be good to see some justification case by case. But if `read-char-choice' can itself remain in the `read-char', `read-event', `read-key', etc. camp, then at least that will be good, IMO. Thx.