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Mon, 22 Jul 2019 20:52:02 +0000 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x6MKmLar080831; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 20:50:01 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2tus0brccd-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 22 Jul 2019 20:50:01 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id x6MKnxUp024139; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 20:49:59 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4873.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9326 signatures=668684 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1907220229 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9326 signatures=668684 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1907220229 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:163610 Archived-At: This is really two different feature requests, IMO. Here is a reply to this one (your second one):=20 > Also, the user may want to read more about the > symbol if it is a built in one, so add a quick > way to visit the Info page of the symbol which > Help is shown. The currently unbound key 'i' is > suitable for this purpose. This is the same text I replied to your similar post in help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org. ---- What you request was discussed very recently on emacs-devel@gnu.org. I wrote this there: Since 2011 library `help-fns+.el' has had that feature. And it's user configurable - not just on/off, by option `help-cross-reference-manuals': 1. Choose the list of manuals to search. Default: Emacs and Elisp manuals. 2. Choose whether to (a) search systematically, when `*Help*' is created, and add a `manuals' link only if search finds hits, or (b) always create a link, and search only when the link is followed. Default: (b). https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2019-07/msg00242.html This feature is implemented by searching the manuals listed in a user option. By default, the manuals are Emacs and Elisp. But you can choose any Info manuals you like. Now if Emacs itself implemented such a feature then there might presumably be no need to search for the right manual location(s) to visit either (a) when you display the *Help* that contains the link or (b) when you click the link. Emacs itself could perhaps have an internal table that gets populated at build time - at least for manuals such as Emacs and Elisp. And if more manuals were chosen by a user (by such an option) then those additional manuals could be handled similarly to what `help-fns+.el' does now: user choice whether to search (a) when *Help* gets displayed (slow, and useless if there's no match) or (b) only when you click the link for Info. Note that the `help-fns+.el' implementation adds a single link in *Help*. When followed, if there are hits in both Emacs and Elisp then it goes to an Info buffer that has a links to each of those manuals. (If only one manual covers it then the link takes you directly to that location.) https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/download/help-fns%2b.el=20 ---- As for the keys you suggest for your two requested features: `s' is already bound to `Info-search', and `i' is already bound to `Info-index'. Those keys are longstanding and should not be changed. =A0