From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6130: 23.1; artist-mode spray-can malfunction Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 17:54:49 +0100 Message-ID: <54BFD9D9.70708@gmx.at> References: <8dd014e7478827e94e3a8fe5b2b948e0@lysator.liu.se> <54BA6A0A.4080408@gmx.at> <54BB8375.9000506@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1421859389 12109 80.91.229.3 (21 Jan 2015 16:56:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 16:56:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 6130@debbugs.gnu.org, busk To: Stefan Monnier , Daniel Koning Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 21 17:56:27 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YDyZr-0002Nt-JF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 17:56:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49199 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YDyZr-0000rL-5e for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 11:56:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48959) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YDyZZ-0000Yq-Gb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 11:56:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YDyZW-0000Oj-Ey for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 11:56:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:33359) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YDyZV-0000Od-W9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 11:56:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YDyZV-0005jW-MR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 11:56:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 16:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6130 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6130-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6130.142185931121972 (code B ref 6130); Wed, 21 Jan 2015 16:56:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6130) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jan 2015 16:55:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52051 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YDyYh-0005iJ-DJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 11:55:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:61478) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YDyYf-0005i3-3F for 6130@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 11:55:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [188.22.33.74] ([188.22.33.74]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MKprU-1YDyYS2vXk-0003tz; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 17:54:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:XdD41Rf8/JzbYB9otDIfzHpdKfHTE5CErKV9kXASr8QJM1cLU6x 7hPA3uPQbqvo0mO2tXtkdNJ6P68eByhO/ZFq5o2zQ41WcmayEzSnJ98rI+gmZMrZCQFaog7 zs5w4nVJ5UoycfvhNWQZZkBoCSJNFn459wUYyMQ3q9np3SzVNBgaJxAp9dmvl7LGTzPAWxr oC/CWN74sbHD+rmDNZxIw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:98551 Archived-At: > The Right Thing to do, AFAICT, is for posnp to return non-nil also when > the `car' is a frame. If the caller of `posnp' is not prepared to deal with a frame but used `posnp' to check that the position is "valid", it currently will not fail. If we have `posnp' return t for a frame as well, it will fail. And as Daniel has shown, such a failure can be quite annoying in its consequences. It probably could have been avoided if artist had used `posnp'. So at least for Emacs 24.5 I would rather not change the current behavior. I would change it for Emacs 25. > For posn-window, the question is more tricky. I don't think it should > ever return a frame, since its name makes it clear it returns a window. Agreed. But `posn-window' is just a mnemonic for "get me the first element of a position". > So we should either make it return nil when the car is a frame, or > signal an error, or return the frame's selected-window, The latter would be certainly wrong. We are NOT in that window. > and/or deprecate > it (in favor of a new posn-window-or-frame). That's what I had in mind. > Can someone look at its various users to see what would be best? martin